Want to be a boating newbie

emubajan

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Ok I am new here so forgive me if this is in the wrong location. I am checking out some older boats on the used selling portion of this site, and also close to my home in Michigan. I am looking at older boats since that is apparently what I can afford at the moment, we want to get the kids out on the water and enjoy boating and fishing. However I have been told to not look at Renke (sp) boats that are from the 80's and was wondering why as well as any knowledge that you can pass on to me in regards to a great starter boat would be great. The wife would prefer a cabin for the young ones to sleep in if we are on the lake for a while and we would like to use our Buick to tow this if possible I know the capacity for the Buick is around 3500lbs. The other option she was looking at is a Speed boat (but honestly I think I am the one driving that idea) However I do not know how feasible it would be to fish off a speedboat like a seadoo etc. Thanks in advance for any help this site is great, wish I had found it sooner.
 

m.qualls89

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Re: Want to be a boating newbie

Welcome to the forum! Im new here too. I will tell you now as i found out the hard way buying a cheaper old boat is basically a down payment. Be ready to put money for matinence and what not. It can be expensive but when your on the water its all worth it!
 

JoLin

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Re: Want to be a boating newbie

Hi, and welcome to iboats. m.qualis brings up a good point- old boats are often in poor shape and it takes an expert to determine condition. There's nothing inherently wrong with a Renken (or did you mean Rinker?) but 30-year-old boats often have a ton of issues.

Starting from square one, you need to quantify your budget, then decide what kind of boat you want to buy. You mentioned young ones- how many and how old are they?

- Sounds like you want to fish and go fast, while your wife wants a cabin to sleep in?
- Where will you boat? Lake Michigan? Small lakes? Rivers?
- Have you taken, or are you planning to take a boater safety class? (please say yes, then do it- it's important)
- As for the tow vehicle, you're limiting yourself to a fairly small boat. Aside from the weight of the boat itself, you'll need to consider the weight of the trailer, fuel and any 'stuff' you have aboard. I'd say you're looking at approximately an 18 footer, which rules out any cabin boat other than a small cuddy with only 'napping' room for the kids.

My .02
 

theBrownskull

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Re: Want to be a boating newbie

We need more information like JoLin requested so we can help.
 

emubajan

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Re: Want to be a boating newbie

Sorry I replied earlier but not sure why it did not show up.

Budget is <5k. Kids are 9,6,3 yrs old.

Yup going to take the safety course, boat will be used on small inland lakes. may go sea doo jet boat route they seem smallish and decently priced. I appreciate all the help so far guys.
 

jbcurt00

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Re: Want to be a boating newbie

As previously mentioned, older = maintenance & some possible demo that then would require various amounts of put back.

Even a relatively newer $5K boat can have plenty of unforeseen problems. After totally redoing his 1st boat, Friscoboater thought he'd bought a great water ready boat, and drug it 1700 miles home to find it needed pretty much a complete gut.

Depending on what boat you find that you'd like, its cost & it's condition, you may need to be prepared for some particularly hard, dirty work, if you're up for a rewarding challenge, boats needing work could be an option. But getting your money back is fairly unlikely when you sell it. Making much profit is less likely...

Check Don's How to's thread's links. Frisco's thread is in there. Which every boat it is, his signature has the other linked.. Both very good, as are all the links in Don's list.

Depending on where you are, you might find a boat surveyor to give the boat a through once over. But they are fallible, just like home inspectors are. But a couple hundred (or even $500) spent on an inspection vs a $5k boat isn't significant. Mechanics at the boat dock or marina will be better then no qualified inspection, but they have an incentative to let you buy a boat that needs work, hoping you will bring it to them. Not all, but some. Same about buying a used boat from your local marina or dock.

You might ought to look at $4-5K boats, but only plan to spend $3.5-4K. Leaves room to get the trailer in top notch working order, fix a few small items you'll find once you own it & crawl all over it in & out, plus some boat gear you'll need. Guys fishing will use pretty much any thing that floats as a PFD, kids & wives (Admiral is how most of us refer to her) are not so keen on using someone else's used PFD.

Kids under a certain age in most states (maybe all, in WV it's 15, I think, but I don't have kids) are required to be wearing a PFD, check your state's regs. Adults can have easy access to a throwable PFD cushion, but it has to be 1 approved by the USCG. As is other safety equipment based on boat size & engine type. fire extinguisher, air/blast horn/whistle, etc.

Also research what your state requires to legally transfer title & get registration for a boat, motor & trailer. In WV depending on what you do & don't have in terms of documentation, boats aren't particularly difficult, trailers are somewhat more difficult. If you want to title a motor, the paperwork had better be 100% trackable. But if you don't want it titled, it isn't required. And if you'll never separate the boat & motor, the motor can be a line item on the boat title too.
 
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