1996 Rinker 180 mods

tprice5

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I am restoring/modifying my 1996 Rinker 180. This boat was my parents (kind of still is) that I used through high school and college. The original plan was just to ride it out until I could afford an inboard. Then I bought the tower to ?hold me over?. I then came to the decision that the tower needed speakers. Since I was all ready working on audio I decided to put two 10? subs under the dash and glovebox. This was all done under the notion that I could just swap it all into the (hypothetical) new boat. After putting a little money into the boat, I started to feel attached and began thinking of what else I could do. Subsequent research led me to this forum where I plan to share the process and seek advice and guidance.

The boat interior is in pretty poor shape. I live under multiple trees and before I took a real interest in the boat, never took the time to cover it up after use; instead opting to run the vacuum over it before every use. It is holding up mechanically. That, coupled with my lack of skill/experience and fear of never having it put back together, is why I have no intention of messing with the engine.

Thus far I have added ?
? Aerial Ascent 2.25? universal wake tower along with a board rack. $600
? Two 10? rocksford fosgate subs and rocksford fosgate 1500 watt 2 channel amp. $225
? Two SJS Dezigns Quattros speakers from a friend. $50
? Sony XM-ZR604 600 watt xplod 4 channel amp. $60
? Kenwood KAC-745 4 channel amp. $60
? Pioneer DEH-4400HD head unit. $150

I am currently in the throes of installing all of this. For starters, it is proving to be way more expensive than I imagine. I've got over $1000 in it. Granted, my mistakes have added to that ie buying the wrong head unit (hopefully they'll accept a return) and messing up the speaker box and having to buy more carpeting/wood. I was certainly not expecting to pay over $100 in wiring. I also had a weird wiring thing I had worked on that cost me $150.
So money aside, this project has been a bit of a head ache. Full disclosure, I didn't know a whole lot about car audio when I began. That has certainly changed now and I am grateful. As I said before I placed the subs under the dash. The same space is used a little further towards the bow as storage for life jackets, anchor etc. I did not know this before but apparently subwoofers need an enclosed box to perform well. I always thought the box was simply a holding mechanism but there is much more too it than that. The shape of the boat and the placement of the subs does not allow space for a simple square box behind the sub. Instead, I am going to have to use the boat as part of the box and spray insulating foam to seal two wooden ends.
One of the tower speaker mounts has a broken off drill bit. I originally tried to use a drill press but it just pushes the bit in the drill to the side and shaves off the aluminum side. I have read a few ideas on this forum pertaining to solutions but I think I am just going to take it to a weld shop and see what they can do about it.

After completing the install of the audio I plan to build a swim platform. I was quoted around $1200 for a fiberglass build from that guy out of Arizona. Since I don?t think the boat is valued at less than $3000, I had to respectfully decline. I found a good thread on this forum relating to the job.
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=205100
I have only spent about $200 on everything. I bought 1x2x6 red oak. The biggest challenge is going to be cutting a piece of larger board to fit the curvature of the back of the boat. I dont have much of a lip on the back end that I can tuck it into so my seam will be visible and I want it to look decent. I am going to take a piece of cardboard and cut it to the shape to be able to get my line down. Then I will cut the board and make minor changes until it fits snug. Will have more on this when I start the project next week.

Once the swim platform is done, I plan to convert the seating to something more reminiscent of an inboard v-drive with the wrap around seating. It will allow for a more intimate/friendly setting for passengers while providing much more storage space. Frankly, I am surprised they don?t come from the factory this way as it better utilizes the space in small I/O runabouts. Just my opinion anyways! I plan on doing the framing and upholstering this fall/winter in the off-season so look out for a bunch of questions pertaining to sewing, embroidery, and upholstering around October.

Lastly, I plan on a simple paint job so the exterior and interior match. I have a friend who paints cars that said he would do it for me. I have researched the different paints required and will consider using those rather than automotive paint.

Questions I have for the moment
? I valued this boat at around $2000 (I haven?t checked NADA). Do you think with these additions I will be able to fetch more for it than what I am putting in? I was hoping everything could get me closer to 6k-7k to put towards an inboard :).
? Has anyone built subs into their boat? How did you manage the challenges of tight space requirements for a good box? Do you think foam insulation is my best option?
? Do you think cardboard is the best way to cut the curve of the transom?
? Is redoing the interior a dumb idea? How much money is that going to cost me?
? Since my boat is only in the water when I am on it, and sits on the trailer the rest of the time, would it make a huge difference if I used automotive paint as opposed to marine?

I will post pictures shortly.
 

Georgesalmon

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Re: 1996 Rinker 180 mods

I'll comment on a couple. Automotive paint will be fine. Many boat builders use dupont paints such as imron. Somebody out there tell me the difference between a marine two part polyurethane and an automotive two part polyurethane. Think about leaving your swim plat away from the hull an inch and use spacers. Cardboard is fine for patterning. I doubt you will get much more money. No matter what you add to it its still a 16 year old boat and probably starting to rot down inside there somewhere. Unless you get very lucky and find a buyer who wants exactly what you have. The electronics will be obsolete in 6 months anyway. Redoing the interior might get you more than anything you add. Besides you want your boat to look nice just for you, right?
 

jbcurt00

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Re: 1996 Rinker 180 mods

I am restoring/modifying my 1996 Rinker 180. I will post pictures shortly.

Pix would be helpful since:
For starters, I have a 94' Rinker 190 19 ft' inboard/outboard. It's in a bit of rough shape and I intend to upgrade in the next year or two.

In 2wks your boat shrank a foot & 10units of model #...:confused:


No matter, based on this:
The boat interior is in pretty poor shape. I live under multiple trees and before I took a real interest in the boat, never took the time to cover it up after use; instead opting to run the vacuum over it before every use.

I suspect that you are not asking the right questions. Even if you live in a moderate temp, arid climate, an uncovered, under tree stored 16yr (18??) old boat can have many hidden problems. There is lots of wood inside the fiberglass hull of the boat most likely, and it also even more likely has a wooden transom. Not to mention the seat boxes, consoles & any other structure in the boat that are most likely also made of wood. All that wood has been exposed to numerous opportunities for water intrusion, which once it starts, it is only a matter of time before it fully involves all the major structure & support wooden parts & pieces.

You should read thru some of the resto threads and give the boat a through inspection before spending any money on it. Many of your currently proposed 'upgrades' won't be considered upgrades to many potential buyers, and it will probably never, ever, no matter the condition or upgrades, command the kind of money you suggested. Esp not in a year or 2 when it's either pushing 20yrs old or is 20yrs old.

George is spot on about the interior. In addition to exterior color or graphics, nothing dates an older boat quicker then a tired, worn interior. As in an uncovered, stored under a tree, regularly filled w/ leaves interior.

I also don't think red oak is the best choice for a swim platform. Teak & mahogany are used because they stand up to the moisture better then most woods. If you must use the red oak, seal it well (ESP the edge/end grain) with epoxy & cover that w/ a UV barrier. Spar Varnish, paint or whatever you chose. Epoxy goes yellow, gets brittle & cracks when exposed to UV, so it must be covered w a UV inhibitor.

However you chose to proceed, pix will help those that will help you, to better help you.

Best of luck on your project, boat safely, and once finished, I hope it exceeds your expectations
 

tprice5

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Re: 1996 Rinker 180 mods

Pix would be helpful since:


I am working on the pictures! They will be up shortly.
Pix would be helpful since:


In 2wks your boat shrank a foot & 10units of model #...:confused:

Whoops! Yes, I was mistaken about a few of the specifics of my boat.

However you chose to proceed, pix will help those that will help you, to better help you.

Best of luck on your project, boat safely, and once finished, I hope it exceeds your expectations

Appreciate that. The audio project is wrapping up right now. More on that when it is finished! I can say I have definitely learned a lot in that time frame. I've gone from not knowing why a ground wire is needed to having a fairly strong understanding of electrical wiring in general. That is what I love about this is the learning behind it. Yes, at times it is frustrating, and usually costs me more money than it should, but at the end of the day I am smarter for it. I would be scared to carry a flat head inside a new mastercraft, let alone do any actual work on it. But when it comes to my 16 year old rinker, I can practice anything on it without compromising too much capitol because it is only worth 3k to start with. It would be awesome if after I was done "upgrading" it I found a buyer, but I think I just like having a something to tinker with and try new things. That being said, it is still my primary boat for the time being. So for now I am trying to keep it to simple cosmetics.

Disclaimer: my position and oppinions about these projects and the boat as a whole change from day to day. If I sound like I am all over the place, that is because I am! image1.jpgimage2.jpgimage3.jpgimage4.jpgimage5.jpg
 

tprice5

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Sorry these are so small! Had to email them to myself so they got compressed a bit.
 
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