Bayliner Cuddy Cabin Resotration Project FIRST BOAT NEED HELP

i got this boat for free it has been in a warehouse covered for 7 years. the engine was winterized and witha couple carb kits and new throttle cables i got the motor running perfect.

the interior however was dated and i bad shape i am going to completely redo the interior however i have a few questions

once i remove the wood from the hull how to i secure the new plywood to the hull it self (screws adhesive ect)

after the wood is down do i have to coat it with somethign to waterproof before i lay carpet?

do i need to clean the old glue off the hull of the boat before i lay new carpet? if so what do i clean it with

and last but not least this boat had back to back seats that laid down for tannign i want to do away with those and put in swivel seats but when i removed the wood i discovered that they were full of foam. is that okay to remove or do i have to keep the same layout

Thanks for all your help!

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first....welcome to the dry dock. There are a lot of threads on here that cover over many times what you are asking. And rule number 1.....we want pics of what you are talking about. Videos are even better.

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Welcome to iboats my friend. You will find a lot of help here. As 93bayliner1800 said, pics, pics, pics.

Judging from your questions, you have a lot (I mean a LOT) of reading to do before you dig into the project. When I started my project, I knew a lot about using a boat and minor repairs, but nothing about boat design or fiberglass work. But after ll my reading here on iboats, I felt extremely knowledgeable (and confident) before I ever mixed my first batch of resin.

So get started reading and we'll watch your questions change.

Sea ya...

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check out veada .com they manufacture seats for many boat manufactures and are economicly priced. also great lakes skipper.com has tons of bayliner factory overstock items. good place to look for bayliner specicic items.

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hey guys i got this boat for free it was stored in a warehouse the outside and the motor are in great condition the interior is pretty dated and the subfloor is shot. i am in the middle of removing the old flooring seats carpet ect

my question right now is before this boat had some seats that were back to back sitting on top of a box filled with foam when i removed the seats and the plywood some of the foam busted loose. The design itself is poor and i would like to save alot of room by putting in 2 swivel seats and building a bench at the rear.

my main question is do i have to have that foam or can i put down a new subfloor and put in 2 swivel seats instaead of that huge box filled with foam?


alot more questions to come because i am new at this so stay tuned

thanks for all your help

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In an emergency, if you were to take on water and the boat sinks,,,The foam is there to keep the boat afloat and level so the passengers have something to hold on to. The floatation foam is a requirement for boat manufacturers. It is not a requirement for you when restoring a boat. Having said that, if you care about your family, friends, yourself, etc. you WILL replace the foam in exactly the amount and location where it was when the boat was built. Location is just as important as amount to keep the boat level when submerged.

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Ok well do you think remOving that little amount will matter in the long run

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Most boat have all or most of their flotation foam under the deck. However in those vintage Bayliners, the deck sits much lower than in other boats so they added flotation to the seat boxes. I believe it would be necessary to have it there to have any prayer of your boat floating in the event of a swamping. It's up to you whether or not to reinstall it though.

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manufacturers only put in the minimum amount needed to float the boat. foam is expensive. the reason some of the foam is up higher is to stop the boat from turning over. "level" floatation.

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Get the old foam out as it is most likely water soaked. If the floor is shot check the transom. My boat has absolutely no foam at all and will hot turn over. You will see what I mean when you get it done. I boat on lakes that you can see both sides if I was on the great lakes or the ocean I would have replaced it. Great boat by the way I love mine.

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here is how I calculated my foam requirement for my Bayliner. FYI....my Bayliner a 93 had almost 35% more than the required amount to float the boat.



http://www.uscgboating.org/regulatio...n_part1_g.aspx

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"The flotation material must be as far out and as high in the gunwales as possible."

This quote is from the USCG link above. Sometimes the calculated amount will not meet level flotation requirements unless it is in the right place. How would proshadetree know his boat will not turn over? Unless he submerged his boat the foam does nothing but add weight unless it is under water. Oh, yeah he does not have any flotation at all in his boat.

Every year the USCG randomly buys some new boats and sinks them to check that the boat builder is meeting requirements. I know because I had a new model we developed in the winter and could not use our outside test tank. We did all the calculations to the best of our ability and lots of info from similiar boats. Although we had the basic flotation right we did not meet the level flotation test. We had to send out some small foam pods to be installed at the dealer at our cost for several hundred boats. We never did that again, always waited untill we could do our own test before releasing a new model.