ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

manhairy

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I am compleatly new to the world of boating. My 9 year old son has shown an interest in fishing. So we bought an old 12' seaking with a 1960' 7.5 fleetwin outboard. The kid who sold it to me said it took straight unleaded gas and not knowing a thing and with no reasurch i ran straight gas. It still runs strong but not smooth. I know now that it requires a mix of 24-1i have yet to run mix in it as i just found out. Needless to say i stopped running it untill i get the mix.is there anything i may have damaged by. running straight gas?
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Oh boy, how long did it run?

Start with a compression test and let us know what you find.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

is there anything i may have damaged by. running straight gas?

That depends on how long you ran it for......pistons, rings, bores, crankshaft and bearings can all be damaged.....the oil in the fuel on two strokes is their only means of lubrication.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Oh boy, how long did it run?

Start with a compression test and let us know what you find.

oh boy is right! did it lock up? those motors are tough but no oil is usually the end of the line for them. jmo
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

No it did not lock up! I ran it today before i realized it took a mix. In neutral it ran tight with full power and exceleration. But in gear it wants to die out. No smoke, or choke. Just die as soon as i put it in gear at low rpm's.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

What's the model number of that engine?
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

As said above, do a compression check on it and go from there.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

My biggest concern would be whether the seller actually ran the motor without oil while he owned it.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Model number is 203 374.
I will do a compression test. Let you know how it goes, thanks for the advice.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Can anybody tell me what year it is based on the model number?
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Well, it can't be a 1960's vintage. The Fleetwin was made from 1950 - 58. That model number is missing something. You might need to check your model number again.

I would run 16:1 in a Fleetwin.
 

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Model number is 203 374.
I will do a compression test. Let you know how it goes, thanks for the advice.

That's not a model number. Look for a small plate attached to the port (left) transom bracket which would have the model and serial number. Also a small quarter size core plug on the powerhead may exist that would have those same numbers on it.

The early 7.5hp Evinrudes were manufactured as follows:

1950, Models 4434 & 4435
1951, Early 1952, Models 4443 & 4444
1952, Models 4447 & 4448
1953, Models 7512 & 7513
1954, Models 7514 & 7515
1955, Models 7518 & 7519
1956, Models 7520 & 7521
1957, Models 7522 & 7523
1958, Models 7524 & 7525
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

I will check it again. Thank you for the run down.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Ok, so I've learned that my 7.5 is a 56 and with a new mix of 16-1 it fires first pull every time. I'm pleased that it idles like a champs and excellerates smooth.is all the smoke normal? Its not bad but it dose smoke. No doubt its the mix but is it to rich? All input is usefull to me as i am new and know nothing of outboards. Thanks for the feedback .....yours truly newby boater
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Running it in a barrel or on the water?

If in the barrel normal. If on the water, depends on how much we are talking. What is your needle set at?
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Tested in a barrel. I have the needle set at around 3 or close to.
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

God No . Dont run her without oil in the gas . Mix two cycle oil 16:1or 24:1 should do good . Your lucky that you did'nt damage the powerhead on it from no oil in the gas . Be carfull next time you run your motor . always read about your motor before you run her . But im glad you did'nt lock up the motor , if that happen the motor is junk after that .
 

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

Top needle: 1.5 turns open
Bottom needle: 3/4 to 1 turn open
These are starter figures. Final adjustments must be done on the lake.
I'd run 16:1 in her, and yes, she'll smoke alot at first. Once you get out on the water, it'll get better.
Does it pump water good?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: ran straight gas in my 1960's evenrude fleatwin 7.5

A mixture of 24/1 will work fine in that engine... 1qt of good quality 50/1 oil to 6gal of gasoline. 87 octane will be fine.

(Carburetor Adjustments - Two Adjustable N/Vs)
(J. Reeves)

Initial settings are: Bottom high speed = seat gently, then open 1 turn out. Top slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.

Setting the high and low needle valves properly:

NOTE: For engines that DO NOT have a shift selection, obviously there is no NEUTRAL position. Simply lower the rpms to the lowest setting to obtain the low speed needle valve adjustment.

(High Speed) Start engine (it will run pretty rough), shift into forward gear, take up to full throttle. In segments of 1/8 turn, waiting for the engine to respond between turns, start turning in the bottom high speed needle valve. You'll reach a point whereas the engine will either start to die out or spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the needle valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest setting.

(Low Speed) Slow the engine down to where it just stays running. Shift into neutral. Again in segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the top needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running. Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back. Again, at that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting.

When you have finished the above adjustments, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.
 
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