Johnson 115 tachometer problem

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bullgator99

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I have a Johnson 115 outboard on my 99 Four Winns Horizon 170 F&S. The tachometer was okay when I put it in storage back in October. I brought it out this weeknd. I took it out on the lake and I noticed at low speed the tachometer was still reading zero. When I slowly give it some throttle the tach doesn't move until after I get up on plane, then it goes from zero slowly up to 4300 and stays there. It goes up to 4800 at WOT which is a little below where it was last year. If I back off to what I think is about 3000rpm it drops back to zero. The system check seems to work as do the rest of the gauges. I'm not sure how to trouble shoot this.
 

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Re: Johnson 115 tachometer problem

If your reg/rect is working okay you may have a bad tach. Model # would help.
 

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Re: Johnson 115 tachometer problem

I got the service manual and I see the troubleshooting procedure for tachometer problems. They mention a peak voltage meter. All I have is a regular multimeter. Is it an issue of precision of measurement or would the multimeter just be useless in this situation?
 

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Re: Johnson 115 tachometer problem

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

NOTE: For the later models that DO NOT incorporate a wiring terminal strip, splicing into the "Yellow Wire" mentioned will be necessary.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.
 

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Re: Johnson 115 tachometer problem

Thanks Joe. Before I could try your procedure my boat developed a leak in the hose feeding the livewell pump. I had to pull everything out of the battery compartment to get to it. I have an onboard Xantrex charger with three batteries and a number of breakers and switches. I removed all of that. After fixing the leak, I decided I wanted to go on a moonlight cruise, so I put one battery back and hooked everything straight to it. Lo and behold, the tach started working and the voltage reading on my fish finder was reading much better. Now to troubleshoot those switches...
 

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Re: Johnson 115 tachometer problem

Damn... I forgot to mention that tach repair feature part about cutting the livewell pump hose. :)
 
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