1961 chris craft restore feedback

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hey fellas...got a quick question...I have the opportunity to purchase a 1961 18' chris craft custom custom sport utility with a 283..i have not been able to see the boat in person but the boat is a full restore and the condition of the 283 is unknown..the few pics i have seen definitely reinforces the idea that the boat is a full restore...the current owner states that the hull is solid but we all know how reliable previous owners can be...i have only recently began researching these older chris crafts and I really dig em..i could pick this boat up for 500 or cheaper and that includes trailer...just wanna get you'lls feed back as I do not know an entirely too much on the history of this particular model as well as wooden boats in general...any thoughts, feedback, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated...thx
 

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Re: 1961 chris craft restore feedback

If it's this hull, man she's a beauty, but I'd still say the cheaper the better: assume all new wood 100% everywhere and be prepared to walk if seller doesn't take your best offer. There will be TONS of woodworking that will build on advanced carpentry but tend to be specialized for boat building. Check out the Glen-L homepage.:cool:

If I could afford to build a Glen-L or rebuild an old wooden boat I certainly would. Wow, gorgeous & sexy aren't even close to what I think of these boats. If most boat restorations take a year or 2, be prepared for a wood restoration to take longer. Have a nice available spot to work on it, and plan for it to live there for awhile.

There are quite a few other places online that chronicle a wooden boat build or rebuild. Spend some time & do an online search. If I can find the web address I'll post it of a fantastic build overseas, Greece I think.

If it isn't rotten & falling to pieces, it certainly has possibilities to turn out as nice as the one I linked from oodle.com. And I will have extreme boat envy!:D

Good luck! And let us see her if you decide to drag her home....:)
 

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I would reach out to one of our members, andgott. He has built and/or restored several wooden boats, and could probably give you the best feedback in terms of what you are getting into. Of course, I love Chris crafts and would buy just about anything with those two words on it...awesome boats...great history....hope it works out for you.
 
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Re: 1961 chris craft restore feedback

thx for the feedback...im new to the site so my attempts at loading pics may not go too well...my wood working skills id say are minimal but I can pick up things pretty well and am always willing to learn..if i take it on, id be happy to have her hit the water sometime before 2015...
 

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I definitely say cheaper, as long as the white hull paint is protecting rather then hiding, it might not be that bad. But the 2nd photo shows missing gunnel cap, and gunnel cap that is very sun & weather worked. I'd spend as long as you can online & look for a detailed description of a marine inspection. I was not thorough enough when I picked up mine.

It may turn out to be a great project, I do love the older CC's. It's how I got here.
 

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Well- It certainly looks like a project :)

As to it being a WORTHWHILE project, that depends a lot on the condition of things. It looks pretty rough in the photos... And it's tough to tell some of the details. First- Is it a plywood hull, or 'traditional' batten seam plank on frame? It APPEARS to be ply. This is good and bad- Plywood is a lot easier to repair, especially with 'modern' methods, than plank on frame. But, they aren't as desirable to collectors, therefore usually not as valuable.

You are going to want to really go over the boat WELL. Here's what to look for-

1) The 'Bones' of the boat need to be in good shape to make it worthwhile. In this case, that means the frames and stringers... You'll really want to get a good look at them- It appears that the interior of the boat has some covering boards installed, you'll want to get them off to take a look. Odds are the floor is removable, too- Take it out and get a good look at whats underneath them. You are going to find rot- it's just a question of how much. Check the stringers, especially around the motor mounts, etc, for rot & cracking. Some rot here and there won't be too bad, but if a lot of the frames have issues, you might want to pass.

2) The 'skin', which appears to be plywood, should be inspected. I'm sure you'll find some rot here and there- But if it's delaminated or has a lot of rot in it, you may need to replace it all. It's doable, but it'll cost some pretty big bucks. Poke it, Prod it- Take an icepick/awl with you... Dont be shy. If the seller has a problem with you being really thorough, walk away.

3) The decks are shot- But check how much of the structure is intact.

4) Mechanical- The engine is an 'unknown', so ASSUME it is a non-runner until you find otherwise. Try to turn it over by hand if you can- So you can find out if its seized up or not. Also see if you can drain some oil from the pan, you want to find OIL and no WATER... Is the running gear (drive shaft, skeg, prop, etc) intact? What about steering gear?

5) Trim- It looks like a lot of the trim is in place, but the more the better. This stuff can get expensive! I've spent many times the original purchase price of a boat on trim & hardware!

A few other things to consider- Do you have a good space to restore it in? You say that you are OK with it taking 'till 2015 ti fix her- It's good to see someone realistic about timeframes- but do you have a place you can keep the boat where it can be worked on and not in the way? You'll NEED it to be inside, or at the very least sheltered from the weather.

The woodworking skills required can be learned, even while working on a project like this... If you've never done any woodworking, you might want to do a small project first just to become more familiar with the tools, etc.

One excellent resource on the subject of wooden boat restoration with modern materials is the west systems guide to wooden boat repair, you can get it at west systems dealers, or download a copy here-

http://209.20.76.247/ss/assets/howto-pub2/Wooden Boat Restoration and Repair.pdf

It deals with the use of modern materials, which make the life of a wooden boat restorer a LOT easier these days!!

I don't want to discourage you from a project like this- But really take a good look at things. It is fixable- any boat is- you just need to figure out how bad the current condition is, and how much time and money you are willing to put in to a project like this... I've seen a lot of people dive in to a boat like this, get frustrated, and give up on it! I've come close myself!!

-Andrew
 
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Re: 1961 chris craft restore feedback

thx for all the feedback so far..I have not seen the boat yet but I may be able to view it next week...I suppose what really got my attention was the price tag on the boat itself, although i know the resto will cost that and then some (strong understatement)..im not crazay about the plywood and would really like to restore with plank, but I suppose cost and skill are a factor...thx for the help everyone and Ill keep youll updated on the final verdict...
 
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