need help with glass and resin info/HELP!

xtremefisher1 · Nov 11, 2011

ok so i might be doing my starcraft resto after all. i am in need of some great info from all you guys as what types or cloth and resin i require to do the boat right! i will probably ordered from us comp but unsure if they will ship to canada or not.

so my questions are 1) what type of cloths do i need?
2) what kind of resin do i need?

any and all help is appreciated

oops! · Nov 11, 2011

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what kind of star craft are we talking about?......i have seen glass used on a tin boat....and that determines everything.

is this a glass boat?

xtremefisher1 · Nov 11, 2011

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yes it is a glass boat.. all glass weverywhere lol..

zopperman · Nov 11, 2011

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i used 435 marine resin from US composites. Others recommend using 404 tooling resin. Those are both poly
You could use epoxy, but $$$ and its really not necessary IMHO.

Cloth - 1.5 oz CSM and 1708 bi ax worked well for me.

xtremefisher1 · Nov 11, 2011

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ok sounds good i will check out there pricing and got from there. \

also where does everyone buy there 2 part foam from? i am not sure where to buy it here and i was messing around with my boat today and i dont beleive there is any foam in there..

any help is appreciated with my topics

zopperman · Nov 11, 2011

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US composites

Check out my thread for a lot of good basic info... I didnt know anything about FG when I started...

I used sheet foam from HD cut to size..

NetDoc · Nov 11, 2011

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zopperman said:
I used sheet foam from HD cut to size..

Who is HD?

oops! · Nov 11, 2011

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home depot.

for glassing info and peeks of products....click the link in my sig

CaptainKickback · Nov 11, 2011

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xtremefisher1 said:
yes it is a glass boat.. all glass weverywhere lol..

Something tells me your going to learn a lot more about "glass everywhere" lol

Anyway, if you have the time (and if you don't, make the time) read both of these guys (oops! and zopperman) threads. I felt pretty knowledgable about FG before I even mixed my first batch of resin, just from reading their threads. And they have been very helpful as I've started into my project.

Decker83 · Nov 11, 2011

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I would also check out Friscoboater's thread and all his video's. It is great to read about it, but seeing is believing. LOL
All these guys (gentelmen) have quality reads.

xtremefisher1 · Nov 12, 2011

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i will sure do that.. i just might keep the boat around and slowly really slowly restore it if not then i will be getting rid of it if the wife wants it gone

NetDoc · Nov 12, 2011

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If mama ain't happy, ain't NOBODY happy. Ignore this warning at your own peril!

xtremefisher1 · Nov 12, 2011

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happy wife = hapy life lol

xtremefisher1 · Nov 12, 2011

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yesterday me and my boy were outside messing around with the boat and i tryed) very successful at pulling all the fibreglass off the floor but a hook tool and by hand... the floor is so water logged its unreal.. there is absoloutly no foam in the bottom of the boat . i just might tear her down and leave it that way till next summer and redo the floor in my boat i will be getting as its an aluminum and wont be that costly to replace the floor.

oops! · Nov 12, 2011

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you are spinning your wheels........

pulling the glass off the deck is unnecessary

when the deck is cut out, the glass comes with it.

xtremefisher1 · Nov 13, 2011

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oops! it was just something for me and my lil man to do together. he likes messsing with taht atsuff with me and we had nothing else to do so we did that and he had a blast doing it.

i know if i cut the floor out it will save me time and alot of work .

oops! · Nov 13, 2011

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nothing like a good bit of family time.

cheers

ncnjeremy · Nov 13, 2011

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Also If you are trying to rebuild this boat. Instead of using the biaxal glass. You can use a layer of Chopped strand and on top of that a layer of Woven Roven. The two fabrics work really well together. Very strong hold and a little cheaper.

xtremefisher1 · Nov 13, 2011

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whats the diiference between the woven roven and the csm?

oops! · Nov 13, 2011

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the roving is a great material, and was used in boats for decades.

with the invention of other types of cloth glass types......we can get a stronger final product with less work. as well....the bi axel product has a different weave....the weave not only goes at 90 degrees like the standard woven roving.....but also at a 45 degree to the 90.....this gives the material tremendous stregnth in a multitude of directions....not just the longitude and latitude of the lay up.

the bi axe also has a layer of chopped strand matt stitched to the bottom of it..... the csm on the back of 1708 is also a longer strand than the standard 2-3 inch avalable in the market place. since the material is stiched to the multi directional weave, the use of binders in the chopped product are greatly reduced. thus....using the 1708 bi axe works well with epoxy and other specialty resins.

3 layers of 1708, are as thick and as strong as a standard hull.

even though the product has a csm backing, i still advise to use a layer of proper 1.5 csm between layers.

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