Four Winns lists their "Winter Promotion Savings" on their web site. The web page states that "Offer valid only at participating Four Winns professional marine retailers throughout Canada and the United States." That line did not make it clear to me who was actually paying for the discount, the manufacturer or the dealer. <br /><br />I called Four Winns customer service and was transferred to their sales department. I asked the "nice" woman (yea right!) whether the manufacturer or dealer paid for the discount savings. At first she said, that the manufacturer and dealer both participate in the promotion. I asked what portion of the discount was paid by the manufacturer and she immediately told me that it was none of my business and retail customers are not entitled to that information. She was pi$$ed off! She said, I had a lot of nerve to ask for proprietary company information. <br /><br />What a pompous a-hole!!! Anyway, does anybody out there know who pays for these discounts (all manufacturers inluding Four Winns); Manufacturer, dealer or both? This is great information to have when going into negotiations with a dealer.