2005 Johnson / Bombardier 40 HP 4-stroke idle / starting problems

xZapx

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I'm new to the forums here, which I found when trying to get some troubleshooting information online. I'm helping my grandparents with their pontoon boat, which has a 2005 40 HP Johnson/Bombardier 4-stroke. It was installed new to replace our previous Evinrude 15HP 2-stroke from the 90's, that came with the boat when it was new.

My background, in addition to being an engineer, includes doing service work on 5 Ford SHO's (of Yamaha fame), so I think that I should probably be able to tackle working on the boat without too much trouble.

Ever since the Johnson 40HP was installed, I haven't been terribly impressed with things, as the idle has been rough (at least for the majority of the time) and I can't say I've seen a huge performance change in the boat.

More recently, there have been problems with shifting between neutral and forward gear - where the boat will stall if not handled just-so. The engine would also surge or drop RPM when steering. I was the only one able to drive it without it stalling, and I suspected the throttle cables were probably shot and replaced them before the boat hit the water this year. All of the plastic retainers on the throttle side were broken.

Unfortunately, the throttle cable replacement did not solve all our problems. I adjusted the new cables to ensure that I could go from idle to WOT, and that shifting properly took place.

During the boat's first voyage with the new cables, it felt that WOT could not be reached and so I adjusted the set screw on that cable. Eventually, the boat died and would only restart briefly before stalling out again. Finally, no starting occurred at all. We had to be towed in and I haven't had luck getting things started since.

I plan on purchasing the factory service manual ($60-$70) for reference, but it has to be ordered. The shop wants $250 just to tow in the boat, as we don't have a trailer. They also said changing the plugs would be the first thing they try. I figure I can probably set things right for less and learn something in the process.

Can anyone tell me if there is a specific procedure to follow in order to properly align the two cables? I'd like to ensure they are properly set, then change the plugs, and see if the motor will run again.

I would appreciate any commentary on this particular model and any caveats or common failures it may have associated with it.

This boat doesn't see many hours of use per season, but I do know that my uncle changed the oil last year. Are there any other common maintenance parts / filters that I should consider picking up and changing at the same time I replace the plugs?

Thanks! :)
 

xZapx

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Re: 2005 Johnson / Bombardier 40 HP 4-stroke idle / starting problems

Okay, just an update for now - I picked up two sets of plugs and a fuel filter. The shop manual wasn't a stocked item, but it is on order as well. The shop is where the boat has always been serviced, and parts purchased from, so I don't know that the plugs have ever been changed. That would explain things.

I'll probably get out to the lake tomorrow and attempt to get things going. I presume I will need to gap the plugs - but I don't know if the owner's manual even lists the gap. Does anyone know offhand what it should be?

Thanks!
 

JB

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Re: 2005 Johnson / Bombardier 40 HP 4-stroke idle / starting problems

Howdy, xZapx.

Welcome to iboats. :)

You will need the factory Service Manual. That engine is a rebadged Suzuki DF40, so either manual will do.

There are a lot of quirks in those Suzi EFI 4 strokes that will get a wrench in real trouble if he isn't using a Manual that he understands.
 

xZapx

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Re: 2005 Johnson / Bombardier 40 HP 4-stroke idle / starting problems

Okay, well I figure I should post an update - I was able to get out to the lake yesterday and changed the plugs. According to spotty records, it MAY have had one change of plugs, so definitely overdue. The service manual is on its way, too.

The fuel filter looks mostly okay, so I started with changing the plugs. Afterward the motor fired right up, and unlike after I had only replaced the bad shift cables, I was able to adjust the idle very precisely, and it remained very smooth even down low. The engine easily revs up, until it hits the rev limiter with ease now. It was late, so I decide that I'd take it out around the area near the pier next time, but I suspect everything is okay now. Just need to finish the throttle adjustment and we should be all set.

I just need to know the proper idle speed, which I imagine the book will have.
 

clanton

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Re: 2005 Johnson / Bombardier 40 HP 4-stroke idle / starting problems

Set at 800 rpms when adjusting, IAC hose must be disconnected from air silencer and hose blocked.

After adjusting connect hose, idle should stabilize at 800-900 rpms.
 
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