4.3 vortec water in oil

1996 Baja

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My engine is a reman 1998 vortec 4.3. When and who did the reman, I don't know. The engine now has 4 hours on it since the last service, when the oil was changed and the thermostat replaced. The thermostat was replaced because of the service interval, not because of problems. I had the boat out 4 times for about an hour each time, checking the oil before and flushing the engine after each trip. The oil looked like brown honey and was on the full mark each time I checked it. The last time out I saw that the temp guage was moving rather fast between 75 degrees (the water temp that day) and 180 degrees at full throtle. I then slowed down and headed for the dock watching the temp the entire time. I saw the needle continue to climb past 180 degrees and shut the key off just before 220 degrees. The marine shop replaced the bad thermostat free of charge and informed me that I have water in the oil pan. I let them know that I made a fast de-accelleration and that the engine dieseled for about a minute. The shop is telling me that the water was not on the piston but in the pan. They would like to pull the heads, check the head gaskets and check for cracks. This seems to be my only option at this point. My questions are: Could a 220 degree temp cause cracks or head gasket problems? If so, should the shop take some responsibility for the mishap? When we made the fast de-acceleration and the engine dieseled, if water reached the piston could it have gotten past the rings and into the oil pan? The shop said that this is very unlikely unless the compression was very poor, which it was not when it was serviced 4 hours ago. If so, I dont want to upset the mechanic by telling him that I think he is wrong, they are the best shop in town. Please help!! Any information would be greatly appreciated.
 

Don S

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

Could a 220 degree temp cause cracks or head gasket problems?

Nope 220? will not damage anything in the engine.

The thermostat was replaced because of the service interval, not because of problems.
No such thing as a service interval for changing a thermostat. Let alone 4 hours.

Shutting an engine down and it dieseling can pull water back into the cylinders. But not into the oil. It may eventually leak past new rings, but if you tried to restart it and had no problem with the engine cranking over, the shut down is not your problem.

How much water was in the oil (oil level on dipstick) was the oil milky?
 

1996 Baja

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

The original thermostst was replaced because it was 2 years old. The third thermostat was put in because the second thermostat failed after 4 hours.
 

1996 Baja

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

I have not seen the oil, but the mechanic said that it was slightly milky and that the level was slightly raised past the full mark.
 

dingdongs

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

may be time to look at the oil yourself as seeing as it was hardly used may be reason oils milky because of condensation.an impeller is the more likely culprit or even broken fan belt not circulating water around engine.sounds strange a marine mechanic would change a thermostat at first and not be looking at impeller etc.is this the same mechanic who has been fitting all these themostats?probably been putting cheap car ones in.
 

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

I'm with dingdong,... 2ndhand diagnosis just Don't work....
 

Aloysius

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

Intake manifold gasket.

There is NO way a running engine gets water in the oil pan from getting water in the cylinders.
 

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

The original thermostst was replaced because it was 2 years old. The third thermostat was put in because the second thermostat failed after 4 hours.

Where are you buying your thermostats?
 

1996 Baja

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Re: 4.3 vortec water in oil

An authorized dealer supplied and installed the thermostats.
 
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