what kind of boats are these?

old johnsons

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Can anyone tell me what kind of boats these are they are 2 hours away from me and all I have go by is these pictures. I'm going to buy them for $100 I can email them you if you think you can help.
 

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scca vette

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

?? might help with a link or some pictures!
 

old johnsons

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Yes sorry. I just got the pictures to work they are my original post on. Thank yoi
 

dlngr

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

look like "parts boats" to me. Hope you can recoupe your dollars and labor.
 

old johnsons

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Really everyone here thinks these boat are junk? Not worth getting back on the water?
 

old johnsons

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Really everyone here thinks these boat are junk? Not worth getting back on the water? I have not bought them yet I found them on Craigslist $50 each.
 

dockwrecker

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

J.U.N.K.
Unless you're into cleaning up someone else's yard and paying for it.
 

RobbyA

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

The pictures are really not good enough to tell anything. Need multiple angle, clearer, larger pics to really tell. You could probably recoup your $100.00 if the windshield on the one boat is in good condition. What are your plans for the boats?
 

reelfishin

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Your pics are too small and too vague to tell much about them but what I do see is two boats sitting bow down, most likely full of water. Neither looks to be anything high end and the one looks like it's got an old Chrysler outboard. The other one appears to have something sticking up in the air, maybe an engine cover? For what ever reason, the purple one resembles a Glastron for some reason, and the other one maybe a Glasspar or maybe an older Bayliner with a Force/Chrysler on it?

Either way, unless both had mint trailers or turn key motors, I'd leave them where they sit. Too many issues to deal with when a boat like that sits like they are sitting.
Be ready for thousands of dollars of parts and repairs just to get the hulls right.
Do a search here for Rotted Transom and Rotten Stringers. Fiberglass, resin, wood, and outboard parts aren't cheap. If your after a cheap boat, wait for one that at least runs or one you know was stored properly.

If I passed by those two boats, I wouldn't give them a second look. If you buy them to part them out, figure maybe $100 tops on a good used windshield, and at that you need to find someone that can use that windshield, a few hundred for the outboard if its not seized. Maybe $400 or so if it runs. Then you have to haul the rest to the dump, the rate here now is about $75 per ton and you have to cut the boat in two and remove the fuel tank and any recyclable metal. A good used trailer will bring anywhere from $100 to $500 for a good roller trailer. Also keep in mind that in most areas we're looking at winter coming, so boats aren't a big seller right now, and the poor economy isn't helping much either. If you got them for free, and had a place to just let them sit and sell parts off them, maybe you could turn a few bucks but it's probably far from being worth your while.
 

MTboatguy

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Can't tell anything from the pictures, they are just to small, even when I click on your links..
 

old johnsons

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

The outboard is a rude. The other boat is a inboard. I have a friend who is willing to teach me repository he is older and has a very good business. I goal is restore and resell
Yes I see there sitting I'm sure full of water. I'm a carpenter and a good mechanic. These pictures are all I have to go on. The last boat I restored was a 1970 glastron with a 800 merc that didn't run. With little work was able sell it. It had a sold floor no seats and had to go through the carbs and reset the timing, and the reverse is going out. I sold it for $600 and guy how bought it took me out for a ride, it goes 36mph he couldn't be happier. And I would like to do it again. It feels to see a Oldfield boat back to life.
 

MTboatguy

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

Well I guess the worse that can happen is you will end up with a couple of large planters for only $50 each, you can probably part the motor out and double your money with no problem, but with out a bigger picture it is really hard to tell..
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

You do realize that with the cost of materials and your labor you would be making less than minimum wage? Restore them if you love to, but not to make money--not unless the hulls are way better than they look in the photos and you can turn them with minimum effort.

Think about it: You need to travel 2 hours and spend time, wear on the tow vehicle and gas, need trailers, the hulls are sitting bow down in the dirt and very likely warped, you need to title or register them before you invest any money or sell them--- AND it is NOT a sure bet to sell an old fiberglass boat. A lot of fuss and bother for a couple of bucks.

NOW: If they were an old hull like a classic wood boat, a Glasspar G3 or Glastron GT150 that has a demand--that's a different story.
 

ezmobee

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

It will be very difficult to restore old fiberglass boats to sell for a profit.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

you could keep them as a pair and name them "Flotsam" and "Jetsam"
 

mfgniagara

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Re: what kind of boats are these?

You do realize that with the cost of materials and your labor you would be making less than minimum wage? Restore them if you love to, but not to make money--not unless the hulls are way better than they look in the photos and you can turn them with minimum effort.

Think about it: You need to travel 2 hours and spend time, wear on the tow vehicle and gas, need trailers, the hulls are sitting bow down in the dirt and very likely warped, you need to title or register them before you invest any money or sell them--- AND it is NOT a sure bet to sell an old fiberglass boat. A lot of fuss and bother for a couple of bucks.

NOW: If they were an old hull like a classic wood boat, a Glasspar G3 or Glastron GT150 that has a demand--that's a different story.

All of the above is completely true. Besides, anyone that knows anything about old boats wouldn't want anything to do with those boats if they knew their history. There's a difference between restoring an old boat or just patching up the bad stuff and selling it to someone that don't know what he's getting into.
When I look at an old boat, I look at it as three main points to the hull, outer hull integrity, inner structure and deck, and the transom. A boat needs to have the first and at least one of the the other two for me to even consider bothering with it. And at that, I'd not likely do any major rebuild work on any run of the mill old hull. It would have to be a boat I really liked and intended to keep forever. You will NEVER recover your time, labor, and materials and any sort of profit from a project like those. When I'm working, they pay me good money, if I'm going to work during my free time, I need to make at least as much as when I'm at work or more for me to give up my time. Therefore there's no way there could be enough room for a decent profit in an old boat considering all the man hours needed to do fiberglass and wood work, plus the cost of materials and any further work needed to get the engines in shape or replaced.

When I see a boat that's been sitting bow down for any length of time collecting rain, it's the same to me as a boat that's been sunk. The damage may not be immediate or visible but it's there.

I've got a neighbor that decided that he wanted to have the deck and transom replaced on his Welcraft. He took it to a local marina that is known for that sort of work. He was quoted only that the average job like that runs in excess of $5500, and that they charge hourly. When the boat was done, it looked good, but he was handed a bill for $7200. Far more than I figured his boat was worth. If it were mine, I'd have put that $7200 into a better hull. The way I see it is that he's got a boat that he spent $6600 to buy, and has another $7200 in the deck, stringers, and transom, plus another $9,000 in the motor. He could have bought a newer, nicer boat for half of that. After all that money, he's still got a 35 year old boat with other issues that crop up all the time. This year he's buying a new aluminum tandem trailer for $4500. Worse yet, it's all on a credit card.
At least all of my boats are paid for and I do my own work all around. I don't mind helping out a friend but his boat wouldn't fit in my garage, and he insisted on getting it done in February.

If your insistant on rebuilding an old boat, find something that's worth redoing, I don't see anything special about those two old hulks. Even in perfect shape I'd be surprised if they would bring over a 5 or $600. Your going to have far more than that in labor let alone materials.
 
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