The fix thread...

Or maybe the mods can create a sticky...
I'm referencing this post: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=427019 where the poster actually replied with his solution. There's so many posts here where so much great advice is given but there's never a posted solution. There's a few, but I feel it would be so much more helpful if there were more solutions. Considering they always seem to revolve around the big 3: Compression, spark, fuel it would be nice to know if your fix was "I put in new rings and it was fixed!", or "I replaced power pack and it was fixed!", or even "put on new fuel filter and it was fixed!". See where I'm going?
Just my humble opinion, if no one else agrees, mods delete or I'll delete this post.
Thanks.
I'll start by hanging one out there: Currently I'm waiting the arrival of my factory manual, then I'll do a proper link 'n sync to try and fix my low idle/dying at idle issue. I have weak spark on a couple of plugs so I also have 2 power packs at the ready. My stator measured correct impedance but I'm also waiting on a DVA adapter to correctly measure voltage. I'm not doing anything else 'till my manual gets here but I WILL post my fix, when achieved.

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Most of the time, the fix is never acknowledged back to the thread, so we're never sure of the outcome. It's good the fix eventually happened.

The thread you point to is not a real good one as an example, since replacing all that stuff w/o doing an adequate job of troubleshooting, is not a positive message, unless building a new motor by selectively replacing parts is good.

All that stuff, but for a pinched wire!

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That's what I mean. I guess we don't need another thread to post fixes but it would be nice to hear more resolutions...

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Usually we will give step by step procedures for checking things and 90% of the time someone gets part way down the list and discovers they missed something or they have now fixed the issue.......the response is usually "thanks guys, it works great" never a specific item that fixed it.

I think some people would try taking shortcuts if people did start posting what they did, thereby skipping over some of the basics and overlooking what initially caused the problem.

Really the idea of a forum is to better educate people about a subject, not to actually diagnose things for everyone, and if they want everyone else to do the legwork then this starts becoming a job.

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Right, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of it becoming like the Top Secret File. A collection of common problems with specific fixes after troubleshooting.

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wilde1j -

True my culprit was a broken wire, but you also need to realize the motor was new to me and i had no knoweldge about what was done. it was stored for 4 years and then bought by someone who did not have any knoweldge of outboards. the Fuel lines were original and cracked. The Majority of the work i performed was to eliminate Other problems with the motor, Like leaking gas from the Carb T, a failed trigger ring and so on and so forth. I posted everything i did to Eliminate the "try this basic thing" answer. If we want to get technical I performed all the standard Ohms Tests on the Stator and trigger and decided to Replace them beacuse the cost was negligable (only 40 bucks for the pair from the local marine shop as he had some used laying around). Only untill i started pulling things did i find one thing after another wrong. While standard troubleshoot might seem Missed to those reading the post, A standard methodology was in place and I replaced parts that i felt would improve the performance of the motor in the end reguardless. I chose not to Relay Information about the Resitance Readings or the Fuel line Pressure because they were all to spec and I knew it was in the ingition system. This motor was played with Over and over again by the previous owner so it made better sense to create a Known baseline of what was good, and what wasnt. Had i not pulled the Packs it would have gone in for service as i do not have a DVA meter and there were no tests without it for the packs, or at least what my seloc manual Had

Anyway, I think the point that mamm7125 makes is quite valid, and my post being his example was just to illustrate that point. I would hope that someone Going into the same prediciment as i was and read my post would Pull the packs and check that ground, as mine was not visible untill i pulled it.

Again, Thank you all for the Help. Hopefully i can return the favor on a motor i know better.

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I do agree it would be nice to hear some of the final remedies but it seems that many get the motor going and they are out of here until the incur another problem. I guess that's life, and this forum is much better than many in that regard. Rick.

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My past experiences have shown that the moderators aren't to interested in our input. I have suggested in the past about posting a list of salvage yards and it was ignored. The moderators are set in their own ways and what you see here is what you're going to get. However, your input is very much appreciated on a case by case situation, as it comes up. Everyone who comes here to give good advice to those who need it, is a very welcome member.

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1946Zephyr said:

My past experiences have shown that the moderators aren't to interested in our input. I have suggested in the past about posting a list of salvage yards and it was ignored. The moderators are set in their own ways and what you see here is what you're going to get. However, your input is very much appreciated on a case by case situation, as it comes up. Everyone who comes here to give good advice to those who need it, is a very welcome member.

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That's odd, because without the help found here, there is no reason for this place to exist. The input here is what keeps people here, not because there is an e-store attached to it.

I think the problem is that they don't stay once they get their problem fixed. I've PM'd 3 that had a problem inquiring as to what fixed it. 1 replied and the other 2 had very low post count and haven't posted since. Ie. they fixed their problems and were done with the place. Which further proves the point that the advice is what brings people in.

I also would like people to "work for it" a bit so they end up learning WHY the fix actually fixed it.

You can give a man a fish...

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I think Sixmark is right, people would just do whatever fixxed someone elses engine and not diagnose there own problem then be miffed cause it didn't work.

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on my opinion, if people would take the time to actually read, and digest, your responses. take the proper trouble shooting advice we give. rather than look for the "Quick Fix" and argue with us. they would easily find the causes of their problems.

outboards are not Rocket Science, or Brain Surgury. but do require the proper trouble shooting steps and techniques.

the person with the problem, that says " it has to be THIS" and does not trouble shoot, wastes our time, there time, also their $$$$.

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Sometimes the answer is already posted within a few messages of their own, or in the FAQ file.

How do I seafoam etc.

I just assume the fix worked if they don't post back...unless they were throwing parts at it.

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I'm in here to learn and I have learned a lot. I have spent many,many hours reading current and older post. If I have a problem I will go to search and type in my particular issue or I will read current post of interest. As stated most people do not say what fixed it but the advice given is still great and has helped me out many a times. The way I see it if they give advice a b and c and the guy responds and says that don't fix it and you never hear from him again then you assume he got it fixed and you can eliminate a b and c. I too wish more people would post the solution but I also wish to catch the world record catfish so I just keep on a fishing.

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I got great Troubleshooting advice, here and its up to ME to do the troubleshooting, purchase the OEM manual for my engine and have the proper testing equipment. I have found great advice on this board for many years, from my Yammie to my current Johnson (even though I set it on fire....But hey the problem is kinda fixed). I

I work in the computer industry and most all problems with todays computers are easy to fix, but I still get people asking me how to fix this and how to fix that. I have a note on the website to "Please restart the computer before calling" this fixes 80% of the problems, every now and then I get a call on how to restart the computer! I now ask you do you really think this person should touch the computer to work on it? ??? Common sense people no website can fix an engine but will give you great leads on how too!!!!!!!

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Ive Been reading posts on this forum for quite a while and there is a wealth of knoweldge that is unmatched anywhere else on the internet. I for one will post to help when I can. Im on a few other forums for my xterra and the folks that come on post a problem and never a resolve drive me nuts.

Tashasdaddy - Your 100 percent spot on. Why would someone choose to come here and aruge when given advice or pointed at something to look. I've found even though you may have looked at that peice the first time, do it again. Sometimes you miss something.

Anyways - This is a very good site with peope willing to help and learn from others experiences. I like to read to find out what fixed it... Helps to build by Bank of "weird fixes to common problems".

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I know how to fix every broken Johnrude & Mercury...................................
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tashasdaddy said:

on my opinion, if people would take the time to actually read, and digest, your responses. take the proper trouble shooting advice we give. rather than look for the "Quick Fix" and argue with us. they would easily find the causes of their problems.

outboards are not Rocket Science, or Brain Surgury. but do require the proper trouble shooting steps and techniques.

the person with the problem, that says " it has to be THIS" and does not trouble shoot, wastes our time, there time, also their $$$$.

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Don't really care if they choose to ignore any advice given here, and it's thier $$$$$$$, not mine.

I'm cheap. I would rather fix something than buy new. Any help given is greatly appreciated.