Vhf Radio.

r.barrow

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have a vhf marine radio given to me. it has a red switch with a lift up cover. is it for emergency or other use?
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Vhf Radio.

That would be a DSC (Digital Selective Calling) radio.

Most VHF radios are considered a saftey item but they have many uses besides calling in a distress.

You will need to register it to use the red button feature.

It's intended to be connected to a GPS and when the red button is pressed it will automatically send a digital distress message that includes your unique radio identifier that points to your registration, and the GPS coordinates of where you are so your butt can be saved in a faster fashion.

Or you can call your fishing buddy with alerting the world.
 

mars bar

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Re: Vhf Radio.

I have to old style and when I call my pal to meet me at this fantastic spot on the lake it's odd to see several other boats heading my way???:confused:
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Vhf Radio.

You can also send you cooridnates to a friend silently. Not all units have full capability. I would go to the mfgrs website an dsee if you can download a manual.

If the radio has already been registered you may have to have the old owner "release: the radio from his registration. MSSI is the name for the unique identifier.

BoatUS will let you register it on their website for free. It's important you get the registration changed or the SAR team will be looking for a vessle as described for the old owner. Also they will have phone number cntact information on file for the wrong person.

I wish more of my friends would know how to use thir radios wuth DSC. I gott train em all one by one to get them using it correctly. Once they get it they think it's awseome.
 

jhebert

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Re: Vhf Radio.

You will need to register [a VHF Marine Band radio with digital selective calling features] to use the red button feature.

I am certain the advice given was not intended to be misleading, but unfortunately it is. When you buy a VHF Marine Band radio for use with a voluntary-equipped vessel in the United States, you do not need a station or operator's license, nor do you need to register the radio with anyone. Nor is the radio registered in any way with an agency involved with search and rescue. What was probably intended to be conveyed to you was this:

Radios with DSC features identify themselves with a marine mobile service identity or MMSI. To use a DSC radio you simply program the radio--yourself--with your vessel's MMSI. The MMSI is associated with the vessel, not with the radio. It is the vessel which is registered in the MMSI database, not the radio. A vessel could have several radios, and they all would use the same MMSI. When you register your vessel to obtain an MMSI, no information is needed about the radio.

A radio with digital selective calling features cannot use those features until it has been programmed with an MMSI. Thus all DSC radios that are making use of their DSC features have been programmed by their owners with the MMSI of the vessel where they are used.

If the radio has already been registered you may have to have the old owner "release: the radio from his registration. MSSI is the name for the unique identifier.

Again, here the intention was probably to offer advice about a radio that has already been programmed with an MMSI. Again, the radio itself is not registered in any way.

Also, the identifier is the MMSI, not the MSSI as mentioned above. The marine mobile service identifier follows the vessel, not the radio. Therefore, you do not take over an MMSI when you get a radio. The MMSI is associated with a vessel, not with a radio.

In the design of the digital selective calling system, a DSC radio must prevent the operator from capriciously changing the MMSI associated with the radio. The thinking behind this was probably intended to prevent radios from easily being changed to impersonate other vessels. This reduces the opportunity for hoax digital selective calls. As a result, once a DSC radio has been programmed with an MMSI, it cannot be altered by the end user of the radio. However, if you return the radio to the manufacturer, the manufacturer can reprogram the radio with a different MMSI. Generally this service is available for a modest fee, or in some cases at no charge; it depends on the manufacturer of the radio.

Early DSC radios allowed the MMSI to be programmed twice. If you have such a radio and it has only been programmed once, you may be able to alter the MMSI programmed into the radio yourself. Newer radios, however, tend to only permit one MMSI entry and then must be returned to the manufacturer if a new MMSI is to be entered.

A further clarification regarding the position information: the radio will be glad to transmit whatever position you would like to enter into it. The position does not have to come from a GPS receiver. You can enter the position manually, however that is awkward and rarely done. More common--practically universal--is to connect the DSC radio to some electronic device which supplies the vessel's position. On small boats this is almost always a GPS receiver.
 

r.barrow

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Re: Vhf Radio.

many thanks to all the replies. will contact previous owner to see if radio has been registered.
 

jhebert

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Re: Vhf Radio.

You may want to read my reply again: the radio is not registered. The vessel is registered.

You don't have to call the previous owner to find out if the radio has been programmed with an MMSI. Just turn on the DSC VHF Marine Band radio. If it has been programmed with an MMSI you will be able to discover this condition from the radio configuration menu.

Aside: a requirement of DSC radios is that their operation should be able to be learned in less than ten minutes. Ergo, you should not have much trouble finding the MMSI, if the radio has one. If the radio has not been programmed, it should disable the DSC features until it has been programmed.
 

bruceb58

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Re: Vhf Radio.

r.barrow,

You aren't getting it yet! You need to register your boat and then program the number into the radio. THE RADIO IS NOT REGISTERED!!!!!
 

Fl_Richard

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Re: Vhf Radio.

Techincality

No the radio is not registered but if the previous radio owner entered his vessel's MMSI number into the radio it would be easy to tell by looking at the radio's setup.
 

jhebert

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Re: Vhf Radio.

will turn on [the DSC radio] and see if registered.

Great idea. Let us know with what agency the radio has been registered. That will be interesting to learn.

Also let us know what data associated with the radio was registered. This will also be interesting to learn.
 
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