QC
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11-7-09 EDIT!!!! : Check dates and this will make more sense. I have merged all of my Monaco threads, and I am basically looking for motivation. Head to posts #38 and 39 to jump ahead. The next 15 or so are background. I deleted the other threads. This is pretty much all of it now except I have kept engine stuff out.
Re: This thread, that thread, this thread and finally that thread . . .
I am starting an ongoing thread here where I am going to post questions, progress updates and pictures on my Monaco project. I will probably have some specific items in the other fora, and I will usually link to those like I have above.
Some background for those who don't feel like clicking . . . I bought a partially finished Glen-L Monaco (a replica of a Chris Craft Racing Runabout of the early 40's) from who was the 2nd owner. He bought it from the original builder of the hull who, while building a very stout and correct hull, got really stupid when it came to finishing it. Lately I have guessed that he may have needed some money as a few of the last things he did were just plain Mickey Mouse. Due to this I have determined that I have to paint the topsides (yes paint), and I am stripping off all of the cheap, paper veneer from the deck and replacing that with a real mahogany deck.
My target look:
The rest of the hull is completely bare and virgin. No holes have been drilled thru the hull whatsoever, nothing but stringers inside. The entire hull has been epoxy encapsulated at every layer and individual piece. Today's wood boats are nothing like the wood boats of yesteryear as the wood theoretically is impervious to dry rot as there is no wood that has not had epoxy soaked into every pore. There is a minimum of three coats on every piece and you literally could not scratch into the wood itself with a crowbar (you could beat/hack your way in).
I plan to sell her after we play a little this Summer. Yes, this summer. I am shooting to have her done by May 1, and I am currently on schedule. However, I am building her as if I was going to keep her. I want the next owner to be very proud and I may even offer a 1 year personal warranty. If you want a copy of my budget, PM me your email addy and I can send an Excel file, this could also be used as a template for any boat project. BTW, I pretty much check iboats first for anything I need to buy, if it is reasonably close to what I could pay elsewhere I buy here.
So here's the first update to the threads above, I have been busy . . .
First I painted the bilge:
I built this crane/sling roller thinga-ma-jig:
Then I positioned her on my duct tape spots which worked out perfectly:
Then I got her off of the trailer, set her down on the dolly and reset the straps for the roll over:
The turn started good enough, but then it stalled out when I got her up on the chine. I have video, but no stills yet. When I get to editing the video I'll post for the learning experience . . . Let's just say it coulda been worse. No injuries and no damage except to a shop lamp.
It worked very well, the only issue was that once she was sideways I kinda expected her to easily roll within the straps. However, the "pinch" of the straps wouldn't allow it, and I was fearful (very) of letting the straps simply freewheel as they only ratchet the one way. As it turned out she was pretty much resting on the chine, so when I finally got the guts, and decided I had to trust my helpers, I reached in and unlocked a strap and . . . nothing happened . . . So I was able to go completely slack and then lock again, push her over and repeat. She did not run downhill or turn on the pipe by herself downwards, she needed help.
The pipe did bend though on the bow side as the strap worked its way forward while we were "rolling". It made for a mad scramble to get her down on the dolly before the strap worked completely off of the pipe. It was literally hanging by one thread (pipe thread, not strap thread) as she settled on the dolly. Great work by my 14 YO responding to my panicked screams to GO DOWN with the bow chain hoist!!!! Again, have embarrassing video, but no stills. Will post sometime soon.
When I go back over I will put the straps inside of the crane hooks . . . Doh!
And now to properly finish the bottom:
I have been a sanding fool . . . Last night I set some epoxy filler. I have been very happy with the construction and fairness of the bottom. Only a few places need help, and I am almost ready to prime.
Re: This thread, that thread, this thread and finally that thread . . .
I am starting an ongoing thread here where I am going to post questions, progress updates and pictures on my Monaco project. I will probably have some specific items in the other fora, and I will usually link to those like I have above.
Some background for those who don't feel like clicking . . . I bought a partially finished Glen-L Monaco (a replica of a Chris Craft Racing Runabout of the early 40's) from who was the 2nd owner. He bought it from the original builder of the hull who, while building a very stout and correct hull, got really stupid when it came to finishing it. Lately I have guessed that he may have needed some money as a few of the last things he did were just plain Mickey Mouse. Due to this I have determined that I have to paint the topsides (yes paint), and I am stripping off all of the cheap, paper veneer from the deck and replacing that with a real mahogany deck.
My target look:
The rest of the hull is completely bare and virgin. No holes have been drilled thru the hull whatsoever, nothing but stringers inside. The entire hull has been epoxy encapsulated at every layer and individual piece. Today's wood boats are nothing like the wood boats of yesteryear as the wood theoretically is impervious to dry rot as there is no wood that has not had epoxy soaked into every pore. There is a minimum of three coats on every piece and you literally could not scratch into the wood itself with a crowbar (you could beat/hack your way in).
I plan to sell her after we play a little this Summer. Yes, this summer. I am shooting to have her done by May 1, and I am currently on schedule. However, I am building her as if I was going to keep her. I want the next owner to be very proud and I may even offer a 1 year personal warranty. If you want a copy of my budget, PM me your email addy and I can send an Excel file, this could also be used as a template for any boat project. BTW, I pretty much check iboats first for anything I need to buy, if it is reasonably close to what I could pay elsewhere I buy here.
So here's the first update to the threads above, I have been busy . . .
First I painted the bilge:
I built this crane/sling roller thinga-ma-jig:
Then I positioned her on my duct tape spots which worked out perfectly:
Then I got her off of the trailer, set her down on the dolly and reset the straps for the roll over:
The turn started good enough, but then it stalled out when I got her up on the chine. I have video, but no stills yet. When I get to editing the video I'll post for the learning experience . . . Let's just say it coulda been worse. No injuries and no damage except to a shop lamp.
It worked very well, the only issue was that once she was sideways I kinda expected her to easily roll within the straps. However, the "pinch" of the straps wouldn't allow it, and I was fearful (very) of letting the straps simply freewheel as they only ratchet the one way. As it turned out she was pretty much resting on the chine, so when I finally got the guts, and decided I had to trust my helpers, I reached in and unlocked a strap and . . . nothing happened . . . So I was able to go completely slack and then lock again, push her over and repeat. She did not run downhill or turn on the pipe by herself downwards, she needed help.
The pipe did bend though on the bow side as the strap worked its way forward while we were "rolling". It made for a mad scramble to get her down on the dolly before the strap worked completely off of the pipe. It was literally hanging by one thread (pipe thread, not strap thread) as she settled on the dolly. Great work by my 14 YO responding to my panicked screams to GO DOWN with the bow chain hoist!!!! Again, have embarrassing video, but no stills. Will post sometime soon.
When I go back over I will put the straps inside of the crane hooks . . . Doh!
And now to properly finish the bottom:
I have been a sanding fool . . . Last night I set some epoxy filler. I have been very happy with the construction and fairness of the bottom. Only a few places need help, and I am almost ready to prime.
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I also am having trouble with Dwain's tool as my hole saw starts to wiggle inside the set screws after about 2 revolutions. Probably will need a mod and I am going to have to switch bits at the least. I guess you just found out what my Sunday will be like if I can get Mrs. QC to cooperate. BTW, she has been great!!
