iboats - The #1 Store For Everything Boating
 
  #1  
Old May 5th, 2009, 03:44 PM
crappie14 crappie14 is offline
Cadet
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 5
Default 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

The 75HP Mariner (1989) has 3 carbs and runs perfect once it has been in the water for a short period. To give a few more details, the engine will go weeks without being run. It will run on muffs and idles great. Put it in the water and throw the fuel to it and it runs but floods, getting only about 8 mph at full throttle. Back it back to a third throttle, it runs perfect. Bulb, hose and fuel filters as well as spark plugs have been replaced. Starts fine, idles fine. If you will run it for a few minutes, 5 - 10, at 1/3 throttle, shut it down, allow it to sit a few minutes, fire it up it will pick up and run like perfect getting around 42 mph at full throttle. Occasionally, after it runs at full trottle, it will develop the same reduced power, flooding smell issue. Once again, back off the trottle to 1/3, run it a few minutes, shut it down and it will once again run perfect possibly for the rest of the trip. It seldom develops the issue once it starts running correctly. This engine has never stranded me and it has always started fine.

I run seafoam in the fuel consistently and when this engine is running correctly, it could not be any better. When it shows out, you are limited to around 8 mph at 1/3 trottle, any more gas than that and you don't see any more performance.

I had a buddy that recently spent $500 getting a similar engine's carbs rebuilt and I don't know of a "good and reasonable" place locally to have this engine serviced. I have been putting up with this ever since I purchased the engine 4 years ago.

Any suggestions welcomed as I don't want to spend big money when it runs perfect most of the time. However I don't want to put up with this issue if it might be a cheap and easy fix. Since it has 3 carbs I hestitate to do anything more than remove the drain screws and spray cleaner into the drain hole which I have done. My thinking is something is sticking inside the carbs and when it frees up it runs perfect. Compression on the engine is 115 on all cyclinders.

Any help appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 5th, 2009, 04:31 PM
cell cell is offline
Petty Officer 1st Class
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 209
Default Re: 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

Get a manual and rebuild the carbs.Check the fuel lines.check the fuel pump(s),and save 400 bucks...or more.Thats if it a fuel issue.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 5th, 2009, 07:31 PM
Sawdoc Sawdoc is offline
Cadet
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Galway Ireland
Posts: 2
Default Re: 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

Quote:
Originally Posted by cell View Post
Get a manual and rebuild the carbs.Check the fuel lines.check the fuel pump(s),and save 400 bucks...or more.Thats if it a fuel issue.
Is rebuilding the carbs something an inexperienced person could take on?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 5th, 2009, 09:50 PM
cell cell is offline
Petty Officer 1st Class
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 209
Default Re: 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

I think so.It really depends on how you look at it in MHO.It might take longer,but with a manual it can be done.Take pictures of the disassembly.Put parts in a labeled bag...ect.It all go's back together the way it came apart.
But I think one of the most important rule to follow is use the right tool for the job i.e. if that screw driver doesn't quite fit....well get one that does.


Besides 500 bucks to rebuild 3 carbs?Look at it my way>Thats a half of grand to rebuild three carbs....come on...If you have the cash go for,If you don't then get a manual.When your done take your self out for a steak dinner with the money you saved...


But ultimately do what ever your comfortable with.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old July 10th, 2009, 11:21 AM
crappie14 crappie14 is offline
Cadet
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 5
Smile Re: 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

Resolution on Issue: Diagnosed problem by pumping bulb until firm, removed each drain/high speed jet access plug from each carb and noticed that carb 3 was not getting fuel. Bulb still firm, no fuel. Used wire to jiggle float via drain plug, still no fuel. Rubber tip on intake valve was stuck (apparently would stick in storage, once you run it a bit it would free up and run correctly). Order gaskets and valve, replaced valve and it appears to be fixed.

Oil Injection Note: Went to pump bulb to fill carbs and realized that I was filling carbs with gas that did not have the oil mix due to the engine not running to turn the metering valve to feed the fuel pump. Connected to a premix tank and flushed the carbs. Not sure how much damage three carbs and the line full of unmixed gas would have caused if any.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old July 10th, 2009, 12:23 PM
sschefer sschefer is offline
Lieutenant Commander
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,565
Default Re: 1989 Mariner Carb Issue, Flooding when cold

Re raw fuel with no mix. It's not a problem. The same thing happens everytime you pump the bulb to fill the carbs during the first start of the day after it sits.

I have been concerned about this same issue and I usually shoot a litte fogging spray in the cylinders before first start after a carb rebuild.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1985 Mariner 175 Carb Issue twmoody Mercury & Mariner Outboards 1 April 8th, 2009 05:09 PM
1989 6hp Yamaha Carb. Reassembly issue... chromefish Yamaha & Suzuki Outboards 0 April 7th, 2009 06:05 PM
93 Mariner 115 carb issue dolphinhunter Mercury & Mariner Outboards 5 March 30th, 2009 07:58 PM
25 Mariner Carb issue barroomhero Mercury & Mariner Outboards 2 May 29th, 2007 12:44 AM
50hp Force Carb issue - flooding Beer1guy Force & Chrysler Outboards 3 May 24th, 2007 02:44 AM

iboats Forum Directory
Over 100,000 forum posts organized by topic
Outboard Motor Topics
Mercury Outboards
Johnson Outboards
Evinrude Outboards
Force Outboards
Yamaha Outboards
Mariner Outboards
Suzuki Outboards
Honda Outboards
Chrysler Outboards
Tohatsu Outboards
Nissan Outboards
Outboard Motors: non-repair
Vintage Outboards

I/O and Inboard Topics
MerCruiser
OMC I/O, Inboard
Volvo Penta

Propeller Help
Boat Propellers

Boat Repair and Products
Boat Building and Repair
Fiberglass Boat Repair
Marine Electronics
Boat Trailers and Towing
Boat Names
Boat Covers
Boat Parts

Boating Activities Talk
Boating Topics and Questions
Boating Activities and Destinations
Boating Blunders
Boat Shows
Wakeboarding
Water Skiing

Fishing Discussions
Freshwater Fishing
Saltwater Fishing

Boat Type Topics
Aluminum Boats
Bass Boats
Bowrider Boats
Center Console Boats
Cruiser Boats
Cuddy Cabin Boats
Deckboats
Fishing Boats
Fish and Ski Boats
Houseboats
Jet Boats
Jon Boats
Pontoon Boats
Powerboats
PWC Forum
Ski Boats
New Boats
Used Boats

Boat Manufacturers
Boats 250+ Manufacturers
Bayliner Boats
Sea Ray Boats
Zodiac Boats



Outboards

Power Heads

Lower Units

Propellers

Inflatable Boats

Boat Manuals

Engine Parts

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:03 AM.