tach works when battery charger hooked up

Koltar

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Still trying to figure out if my tach is bad or my rectifier is bad.

If the tach only works when a battery charger is attached to the battery mean its the rectifier?

1992 evinrude 175HP
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: tach works when battery charger hooked up

I read your other post on page two.

DO NOT disconnect anything and DO NOT connect the GRAY "Tachometer" wire to the rectifier to perform the following test.

I understand that your engine (later model) does not have a terminal strip so you'll need to splice into one of the yellow stator wires.

DO "NOT" CONNECT the GRAY tachometer wire to the rectifier. Connect it to one of the YELLOW wires leading from the stator.

(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.
 

Koltar

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Re: tach works when battery charger hooked up

Thanks Joe for the reply

You kind of lost me on do not connect and do connect stuff seems impossible. The way im reading it seems you want me to not disconnect anything but make sure its not connected.

Is the objective to use the Yellow/Grey wire instead of the Grey wire that comes out of the rectifier to hook up to the tach? If you look at my other post i have a link to a picture of what I did.

if so thats what i did and tach still did same stuff.

However Like i said above with the battery charger put on 40 amp charge the tach will work fine, however i did find out that if i put it on only the 10 amp setting it will not work.

Maybe I need an extension cord that will reach across the lake and hook my battery charger to it =P !
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: tach works when battery charger hooked up

I reread what I entered in my reply above and saw where I left a word or two out that would obviously create confusion. I corrected that and put the added words with quotation marks.

Keeping it short, the gray wire that leads to the tachometer..... attach that wire only to one of the yellow wires that leads directly from the stator, NOT the rectifier..... and leave all of the other wires connected as they would normally be. If the tachometer now functions properly, the reg/rec assy is faulty.
 

Koltar

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Re: tach works when battery charger hooked up

Gah!

I did that and the tach still didnt work. I believe I did as instructions the first time.
Does the tach working while battery charger have anything to do with this at all?


Seems to me that would show that tach works?
Also, when i went outside to mess with it today my battery was low and starter wouldnt engage. Now im not sure if i left something on but the ignition was not on. I dont think anything else was either, this boats new to me still and lots of buttons on it =P.
 

interd0g

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Re: tach works when battery charger hooked up

You don't mention if the outboard charging system actually works OK.
Does it?. What max volts do you see after a run of say 30 minutes?
 
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