I'm looking to purchase a Yamaha 90. This guy works out of his Garage and seems to know what he's talking about. He replaced the bottom piston with new and the other pistons were fine so he left them alone. The top cylinder was a stock bore with the middle cly being bored 020' over and the bottom cylinder being 030' over. Is that a problem? By the way it's a 89 model with controls and he wants 1750 for it. What do ya think?
Last edited by Marlinman10 : November 11th, 2008 at 12:19 AM.
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bore size isn't a problem in itself as long asl all of the cylinders maintain acceptable compression.
However if its a home job. and the guy didn't use a dial bore gauge, he may have put a nasty taper on the cylinder, and that will can cause a variety of problems.
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just because you found it that way... doesn't mean it's supposed to be that way.
Part of diagnostics is spending time figuring out not only what the problem is, but also sorting through what it isn't.
The older the engine is, the chances of it having more than 1 problem goes up exponentially
Boating has always been a rich mans hobby. Buying a new boat gets cheaper every year, but the maintenance, the repairs, and the overall cost of ownership of a boat has never gotten any cheaper.
JMO...I would think that there would be a balance problem with three different sized pistons.
Sounds like a patch job with a limited lifespan.
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1989 22' Bayrunner Cuddy (Aluminum)
2001 Merc. 115 Saltwater Series Fourstroke
1988 Yam. 9.9 High Thrust Fourstroke
1998 Dodge 2500/ 24V. Cummins diesel
bore size between cylinders on that motor is irrelavant.
I have seen a few from the factoery with oversize pistons.
my issue is with the first failure,usually due to overheat or lack of oil.
its very very rare to see a used bore that will clean up and still be round but it does happen.
the other issue is what bearings got replaced and who did the crank as there are very very few places that can dissasemble and reassemble a built up crankshaft assy.
were the exhaust covers and water jackets removed and carefully cleaned/inspected?
gearcase seals ok? new water pump,t-stat and pressure valve grommet?
there is a lot more to reconditioning an outboard than simply tossing in a few pistons and some gaskets.
we dont rebuild a lot of them here due to saltwater but I averaged about 30 a year for many years and all were sold with a 1 year warrenty.
I scrapped a lot more than I built due to cooling system corrosion issues.
It is perfectly acceptable to have one cylinder on a multiple cylinder engine as much as .030 oversize. Any combination of oversize is equally acceptable. Increasing the cylinder bore increases the volume of that cylinder but the quench area (combustion chamber volume also increases slightly so the net result is compression remains nearly the same and you end up with an engine that has marginally larger displacement. The concern here is how the seller bored the engine. Unless he owns a boring bar which is something you don't generally find in a shade tree mechanics arsenal of tools, it would have taken him a long time to "hog" out a cylinder to accept an oversize piston. Using a cylinder hone is not the way to do that and if that's what he did -- you are well advised to run the other way. For optimum performance and longevity a cylinder must be perfect from top to bottom. It cannot have any taper nor be out of round at any point. You can't do that with a cylinder hone.
Having one or more piston bores be different sizes in a two stroke engine isn't a big deal because the firing order for two strokes is 1-2, 1-2-3, 1-2-3-4, or 1-2-3-4-5-6 depending on the engine size. So the issue of balance (like on boring inboards) wouldn't be a problem, I/O's and Inboards need to have all of the bores the same size. THe real question is did this guy rebuild this thing in his garage properly and what made it fail the first time. Thats the real gamble.
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