HAHA. You know Ziggy, sometimes it just seems the world is out to get you on certain projects, and your window was one of them!!
I know the feeling. We use silicon on many facets, and it never set up. like you even after a week it was still goo... Since then we have actually not used the GE silicon again. It was a pain for us. Now we only use the quick dry from Lowes. believe its called polyseal. Funny thing is we have used the GE silicon II for YEARS..... and the one bad batch turned us off from the indefinatly. That was just to much trouble to maybe have to deal with again. but we had a good 10 year or so run with that particular brand.
As far as the shipping goes. We have not shipped via UPS in 8 months now. We only ship fedex. And guess what. Not one problem......
Just got one myself and I will certainly be needing a few things
way to go dbkerley. congratulations.
now that you've got us drooling about your new boat. tell us all about it. you know, what color? what engine package? what your plans are for fixing her up? pics? start a new thread with all the details....
if ya got a mercruiser, go to the i/o fourm and read the adults only sticky at the top of the page too. much info in that sticky.... even service manual info if it's mercruiser...
Brown on the bottom. No hardtop or anything at this point. Everything else seems good. I need to make some new seat boards, fix the fuel gauge, bilge pump and blower.
Mercruiser straight 6 w/ mercruiser? outdrive and a bronze prop.
I really want to find some info on getting the hardware needed to connect into the convertible rails.
I don't do well with pics. I take them and they stay on the phone 4ever.
cool. you'll find many folks includeing me that love the L6 engine. real nice package for the nineteen too. mine gets right up and goes pretty good. if 42mph @ 4300rpm is going pretty good. and i think it is. least it feels pretty fast.
what year ya got? you probably have a 1 drive like most of the mercurisers in that era. it is black, right? you can id it by serial number. if a mercruiser, it'll be stamped on the mercruiser sticker or also under the sticker on the drive. go to the adults only and read #9. get #1 or 2 more than likely. it'll have all the relevant info on your engine and drive. assuming it's a mercruiser. those files are large too. so give them time to download. saw this in my local craigslist the other day. i think it's #2. http://omaha.craigslist.org/boa/1108590119.html i already have it so don't need it. be sure it's the one you need prior to getting it of course..
man, sure wish we could see some pics. a bronze prop ay? cool. i've not seen one on a mercruiser. though my dad's ol tower of power merc 900 o/b had a 2 blade bronze on it. it was cool. i'm running a 19P aluminim that i'm happy with. would be cool to see a brown boat too. i've not seen that color i don't think. the colored hulls seem to be more rare from what i've seen.
call scott up at aristocraft on the blower. they are unusuall compared to any blower motor i've seen in a boat. and he's got them to the best of my knowledge too. i'd ask him about the slides for the convertable top too. he's proably gonna be in the know as to what you need.
just a fyi. photobucket.com works pretty good for uploading your pics to the web.
don't sound like ya need much to get her on the water cool.
fwiw. i've seen a couple ads on the web for some cheaper ol nineteens. i think one is $350 and says it comes w/ a hardtop... i just google aristocraft nineteen and have been coming up with that ad for a year or better if your wanting a hardtop...
The year it seems is coming into debate. The previous owner said it was a '74. After doing some reading on here, I see that the carpeted sides didn't come around until '79 or '79. Mine has carpeted sides.
ya should be able to determine pretty easy what year it is, if it was produced after 1972. a hull identification number (hin) was required after 72. on my 75, it's molded into the fiberglass right above the drive. like this...
note, the last two digits are 75 indicating a 1975 built boat...
agreed. the carpet on the sides was later. my 75 has contact paper that looks like wood. carpet was later than 75 i think. scott @ aristocraft will probalby be able to tell you about your boat too i'd guess...
Iwill be looking more this afternoon and probably trying to take some pictures. I picked up a cover, new bilge pump, fuel sending unit, anchor and several other items last night at BassPro.
My wife went too. So, she got some clothes to get even for buying more boat parts.
I've got alot to do in the electrical department. That is where I'll be focused for right now.
sweet, us (at least this) nineteen owners love to see pics of others nineteens.. did ya see that blue one that aristocraft posted up... http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=275852 man, that ones a beauty....
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I picked up a cover, new bilge pump, fuel sending unit, anchor and several other items
cool, now yer having fun....
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wife went too. So, she got some clothes to get even for buying more boat parts.
that's cool too. my girlfriend likes to buy accessory's too. she's always coming home with something that we can use while boating. her last item was two little battery powered miniature lights to use while were camping on board. of course she buys personal stuff for her too. that stuff. i don't know about. mostly don't want to know about that stuff either...
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I've got a lot to do in the electrical department
let me know if i can take any pics for ya if that'd help. also, don't forget to get your service manual. it has wiring diagrams in it that might be most helpful...
man, i've got the itch to get out real bad, but the darn weather ain't been up to snuff yet... soon i hope...
Might you know what the hole between the hulls is? It is under and forward of the starter but behind the battery. It looks as though it may have been some type of drain or a mounting point for the bilge pump.
it's where your blower intake hose goes.
my 75 has a squirrel cage type blower motor. only one hose goes from it. the other end into the hole in the liner. since our bilges are unique in design, and since our engines actually bolt up to the sole of the boat. i guess aristocraft figured the fuel vapors would sink between the outer hull and the liner. that's the only thing i can figure anyways. this is how mine is...
where the blower bolts up to, is the exhust side i guess. i assume it goes directly to the outside. i can only feel my blower out the rear port vent on the deck....
Great, I really appreciate that piece of information. My blower has been converted to a more modern design. However, it just sucks the air from the top of the hull area. It moves enough air to use it like a hair dryer back there.
BTW, the boat is a '74. TL31575M74C. Got the bilge pump changed and the sending unit for the fuel gauge. Gauge stil isn't working. But, headway is being made. The cover I got wasn't quite wide enough.
My blower has been converted to a more modern design. However, it just sucks the air from the top of the hull area.
yep, them squirrel cage blowers are hard to come by. except. on the aristocraft web site it is one of the parts listed as available for our rigs. $60 is says.. i've already replaced mine and am considering getting another as a spare if all goes well when i get around to summerizing and see if everything works.
no letter 'A' in front of the TL on your hin? atlanta boat works. i'd agree, a 74. interesting that ya got capet on the sides though. i woulda thought that was later like you had said earlier.
sounds like your getting right onto some repairs. i'm just beside myself for not being able to get out and get onto mine... i'm still winterized. i did go get my batt. load tested yesterday though. 1 step for me in the right direction. it passed.
bummer about the cover. i measured mine a few times prior to ordering. having the hardtop was killin me for finding something wide enough... ended up at overtons as they had a 110" wide i think it was for a 21' boat... just hangs a little long in the ft. and covers my winch. came out perfect on the sides..
you do need s/m #2 like me. the link for the paper one is #2 i think. or download it. i got it both ways... in that s/m on pp 3D-1 is the test for the fuel gage.
if you want me to write the procedure out here, i can. just let me know. other than that, it's in the book..
sure sounds like your having fun. wish i was.... surely the weather will break here in NE. pretty soon though... i hope..
Congratulations to dbkerley on your purchase! Just wanted to let you know there is currently a hardtop on ebay if you have not seen it. It says must be picked up in Tennessee I believe. That could be tough. Good luck on your new boat.
Picked up another fuel gauge (same exact one) from an old Glastron in the junkyard over the weekend. Had a great time and looked at some really cool old boats the guy has.
He has a Johnson Seahorse and some type of Volvo/Penta boat with an I/O that is totally transom mounted. It has a factory hood scoop over the engine that looks like it belongs on a funny car and old chrome running down the sides like a '57 chevy. He probably had 100 hulls down there.
Everything in the boat is fixed now and I am starting on the trailer this afternoon. It has one working light at this point.
I thought about naming her Singer because she runs like one.
I thought about naming her Singer because she runs like one
sounds like a good name to me. be sure to go through the naming ceremony so posiden is happy and looks kindly up on your boat...
got mine summerized and tuned up and went out sat. myself. i did have one let down though. like choked and died in the middle of the lake. had to get towed in. a first for me. messed around with it at the dock and got it running and it was all down hill from there. ran good like it was supposed to. now i just gotta figure out what i need to check for a no start condition. initially i'm thinking ign system for sure as it just shut down instantly.
good luck with your trailer lights. mine are a constant battle. there's always one or two that need the emery cloth treatment, or a new bulb, or a better ground. don't forget to do the wheel brgs. i didn't do mine for two years and paid the price late last fall. 1 melted wheel brg. + a bum day at the lake repairing it at the boat ramp. wasn't a fun day really. so stay on top of them brgs... greasing them through the brg. buddys is not enough. ya gotta take em apart to get the back wheel brg. greased..
so ya decided your gage was bad. did you give it the test in the service manual to decide this. cool that ya got an exact replacement. i'd be bummed if i had to get a different gage for mine. i love my dash. it's just like that ad's say. sports car styling... does yours look like this? short of my auto pilot foot...
i'm lucky. i got a 72 trisonic in my backyard. deadlined for multiple boat, engine, and drive issues. so as of right now. it's a parts boat. cool thing is, all the parts are exact replacements for my aristocraft... i sure got lucky there...
Identical except I have a speedo mounted where your cupholder is. It is an original aftermarket OMC. Kinda cool looking in a retro way. I looke for some pics of a similar one and didn't find any. It is an ugly plastic bubble looking thing with a single bolt through the back. Reads both mph and kmh.
Took her out yesterday evening for a couple of hours and banged her around a little to be sure everything was solid. After that, I let my wife drive for awhile and get comfortable. She is a good solid boat and tracks well even if a little heavy at the helm and slow to plane.
I left the blower on the entire time we were out and it tripped the circuit when I cut on the bilge and lights with it. I will need to upgrade that circuit this afternoon before we go out again.
so do you have the omc package? or just that gage? i'll be of no help to you if the drive is omc. i know nothing about them. the L6 though i'd think is a L6. omc or mercruiser. it's still a chevy 250.
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After that, I let my wife drive for awhile and get comfortable.
yeah, do that. let her drive and get good and experienced. my gf don't like to drive. hence ain't real experienced. well, her lack of experience showed through last fall when we ended up in real big surf and in trouble and she had to drive. not the time to be learning to drive when bad things are happening..
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even if a little heavy at the helm and slow to plane
i would take that as there's something amiss somewhere. something as simple proper full in trim at take off, or a tuneup or a prop pitch chg. or, i don't even want to say it, as bad as waterlogged foam making the whole rig weight to much. are you able to reach wot? if a mercrusier, it's between 3900-4300, preferably on the high side. my wot is 4300-4400..
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I will need to upgrade that circuit this afternoon before we go out again.
i had a little wiring mess when i got my boat too. here was my answer...
a 6 gang fuse box. ran 2 (+ and -) fat wires from the batt., fused at the batt., up to the new fuse panel. just mounted the fuse panel up under the dash. then separated out my clustered wiring...
side note, was reading one of the other aristocraft threads the other day. i believe now that the hole in the floor, where the intake blower hose goes. the other end of that hole is in the ski locker. it's the hole that is on the aft starboard side of the locker..
It's just the gauge. I like the circuit panel you added. Where did you get it?
No problem with throttle. I just wasn't hammering it and one blade of my prop is off pitch so I didn't want to open it all the way up. I don't think the foam is a problem.
I didn't expect this boat to handle like some of the others I have had. It handles as expected - a little on the heavy side. When I said it was slow to plane, I was talking about more than five seconds at moderate throttle. My Glastron will literaly jump almost out of the water onto plane instantly. If you don't have the trim set right when taking a holeshot it will stand straight up. I'm still learning the trim settings for the "craft".
The fastest I was running yesterday was 28mph (speedo) @ 2500 rpm (tach) and that was just poking along.
whew, another sigh of relief. i assume you saw that thread by 1923waterbug. man, i felt bad for him the way it worked out for him..
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I was talking about more than five seconds at moderate throttle.
yep, that's sounds about right to me..
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If you don't have the trim set right when taking a holeshot it will stand straight up.
i agree, mine does too.
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I'm still learning the trim settings for the "craft".
i think i'm gonna wear my trim switch out. i'm constantly adj. trim setting it seems. they certainly are trim sensitive. i don't personally feel there's anything wrong. just trim sensitive is all...
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The fastest I was running yesterday was 28mph (speedo) @ 2500 rpm (tach) and that was just poking along.
still sounds good to me. maybe even faster than mine. if i remember right. i run about the same speed as my tach reads from about 2800 up to 4300. in other words. for me. at 2800rpm, speed is probably around 28 mph. at 3300 im going about 33mph. 4000 rpm, i'm going about 40 mph. its kinda weird for that to occur i'd think. but that's the way i see it when i'm out. i also don't have a speedo obviously. so my readings are dash tach and handheld gps speedo..
sounds like your doing well. that's excellent. i think i'm doing ok too. i splashed last weekend. i only got towed in once... . i forgot to tighten the cap down on one side. sure was a let down when she died stone cold dead in the middle of the lake and wouldn't restart while i was blowing right towards a rock infested beach. here's the story if your interested... http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=303947.
really glad your doing well. me too, now, i think. looks like i'm gonna miss this weekend for raining weather... darn... another week to wait till i can see if i'm hip, running wise. though i'm sure i am... have a great day...
I have a quick question. You posted picks of your blower connected to the hole that connects the skilocker to the engine compartment. I was wondering where your bilge pump is located? The reason I ask, is that on my aristocraft, the original bilge pump is mounted into that hole, or was until it gave up the ghost. I've since moved the bilge pump directly to the skilocker in front of the drain hole, and pump out through a bilge tube that runs through that tube that goes from locker to engine.
Just curious, since I'm still working on undoing a ton of good intentioned "upgrades".
I thought it looked like a "natural" location for the bilge pump as well. However, I didn't see any that would work in the hole that were immediately available.
The reason I ask, is that on my aristocraft, the original bilge pump is mounted into that hole
do you have a pic of that?
i really don't know where the oem location for the bilge pump is. hopefully aristocraft will let us know. to me, it seems likely that they came with a bilge pump. i have a 2 pull switch on my dash that looks the same as the other switch that operates my nav lights. era appropriate. also where the bilge pump water exits looks like a 1975 fitting too.
i've left mine where the po put it. just slightly to port of the garboard drain plug hole, at the very back. mine was loose and flopping around when i got it. i just glued it back down. while i doubt that's the original location, it seems likely to me that all water anywhere on the inside will make it's way back to the very back of the boat. nehoc, interesting place for placement in the ski locker. myself, i'd be concerned about the water that would still be further back in the boat prior to rising high enough for the pump to work. + i fill up my ski locker with all kinds of stuff.
note, i'm still figuring out where all the (vent) holes go in mine. from the bow, it drains into the beverage cooler (mines complete with a bathroom drain stopper inside the beverage cooler to plug the fore and aft hole). the cooler to the ski locker. back hole of the ski locker to the very stern under the engine. side ski locker hole up to the blower intake, blower exits to the rear starboard hole on the deck. the fore hole on both side i don't know. starboard i suspect it leads to a hole up high under the cap right behind the starboard rear seat. i've not looked hard at the port side deck holes, the fore and aft one. i assume one is ram air in and the other is just a vent out. i've not found (noticed) the holes inside on the port side...
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I'm still working on undoing a ton of good intentioned "upgrades".
sounds like yer on the right track doing some downgrades back to oem to me...
so we still don't know the oem location for the bilge pump i don't think... another question i'd have would be. how did the oem switch work. mine, i get blower only with one pull, 2nd pull gets me bilge pump only. only reason i'd wonder this is my last boat, a trisonic, with the same exact switchs was, one pull, blower only, two pulls blower and bigle pump.. i wonder with is best or right?
I also noticed a little drain hole just under the bow eye that comes from the recess the windshield drops into.
yep, me too. no idea if it drains or not though. once in while i get a little water in the bow. i've yet to discover where it comes from. i initially thought that drain was plugged. or maybe not sealed good in the center panel pocket. nothing i've done has stopped the leak. my windshields also had a semi messy silicone job by the po. i think that is where my leak is. i usually only leaks in high seas where i'm getting splashed a lot or when it rains... mostly it stays dry though.. idiosyncrasies of owning an old boat i guess.. someday i may even try to reseal the windshield, but since it only happens once in a while and its not hard to clean up. i've just been living with it...