Non Smokers didn't see this coming in Ohio

Anymore I really don't care who smokes or where. 2006 voters approved the no smoking thing state wide in all public places where people are.

A year later, this is where we are at. Working for a fast food chain, our drive thru business was about 60% while inside was 40% befor the ban. Now the business in the drive thru has gone up to about 77% and the lobby is way down. This is just not at the chain I work for, but all the others as well. Long lines outside with cars running vs coming inside has undoubtly increased gas consumption thoughout the state. In Ohio if you eat your meal on the premises, you pay sales tax on it. If you get it to go, it is tax free except for carbonated beverages. However, the smokers drive thru (since they cannot smoke inside the store) get their meal and then park to eat it. In all actuallity, they should be paying tax since it was consumed on the premises. So I'm curious of how much tax revenue is lost, but however more tax money is raised thru the gas tax. It may balance out in the long run, but it is still causing more energy to be expended in my opinion.


Funny thing is, I hardly hear anything that relates to second hand smoke now on how dangerous it is. I would fear MRSA and many other germs that can do more harm. BTW, I haven't had a cigarette in 19 months, but I have enjoyed a cigar here and there.

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BTW, I haven't had a cigarette in 19 months, but I have enjoyed a cigar here and there.

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Ayuh,......

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S, SS.....

Unfortunately,...... I've Still got the Disease....

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To me what it boils down to is that it should be the owner of the establishments call. If they want to do non-smoking then more power to them. If they want to allow smoking then post it on the door and let the customer make their own decision. I am getting tired of our government telling us what we can and can not do, it is NOT their place to do so. They have completely forgotten who they work for. That is one of the many reasons that I am getting out of the Navy really soon. I still believe in this country and I spent the last eight years of my life defending this country, but I am tired of them overstepping their bounds. If I want to smoke that is my business and I try very hard to not offend others. I know lots of non-smokers and try to be respectfull about it. To me it is the same issue with gentlemans clubs. If you don't like them, you don't have to go in. If a place offers a smoking section and you don't like then you can choose to go elsewhere. We all that that right of decision and I am tired of the government taking those rights away. I am sure that anyone and everyone could add to the list of things that should be our decision and not theirs. If you don't like this country there are about 360 degrees worth of directions that you can pick to leave.

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BTW Congratulations on the not smoking. I am planning on working towards that once I get out and get settled in to my new job. Right now the stress level is just a little to high for me. It would not be wise for me to quit right now. I am afraid that I might pick up a drink before I picked up a smoke and that would be bad. I have not had a drink on about 3.5 years and I would like to keep that.

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I have been smoke free now for a while.... dang the thought of a good cigar is tempting. I have not cheated so far......

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JMRuth72 said:

To me what it boils down to is that it should be the owner of the establishments call. If they want to do non-smoking then more power to them. If they want to allow smoking then post it on the door and let the customer make their own decision. I am getting tired of our government telling us what we can and can not do, it is NOT their place to do so. They have completely forgotten who they work for. That is one of the many reasons that I am getting out of the Navy really soon. I still believe in this country and I spent the last eight years of my life defending this country, but I am tired of them overstepping their bounds. If I want to smoke that is my business and I try very hard to not offend others. I know lots of non-smokers and try to be respectfull about it. To me it is the same issue with gentlemans clubs. If you don't like them, you don't have to go in. If a place offers a smoking section and you don't like then you can choose to go elsewhere. We all that that right of decision and I am tired of the government taking those rights away. I am sure that anyone and everyone could add to the list of things that should be our decision and not theirs. If you don't like this country there are about 360 degrees worth of directions that you can pick to leave.

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Well Said!, Now they also have the veil of Homeland Security to hide behind, and take away whatevers left of your right's, & personal freedom's.

By the way, I'm on my 4th day smoke free, it seems like 4yrs! The cravings are not too bad yet, but I really do miss the taste, and I also have this odd feeling that something is missing 24/7? I guess it's the habit,,, funny how the mind works.

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I always walk through the smoking section on my way to the turlet. It's the best place in the whole restaurant to let a fart.

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JMRuth72 said:

To me what it boils down to is that it should be the owner of the establishments call.

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Yup, this is how it ought to be. I smoke, but not indoors. I don't want to smell it at a resturant or any other enclosed space for that matter. I go outside and pick a spot where it doesn't bother anyone. Just leave it up to the owner. I think most places will still be smoke free and I'm fine with that.

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Thank you. I was hoping that it was clear enough. I have what seems to be unusual thoughts about things for someone in my age group. Oh well! I just hope they learn before it is to late. Although I think that it may already be. Not sure.

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Not in Bremerton. This place is worse from what I have heard. It is simple I am a recovering alcoholic. I can't drink, so I would rather smoke.

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I guess the ole sayin "For every action there is a re-action" holds true. In this small town there are small resturants, taverns, and pubs that have had to close because of the loss of business. Several have allowed smoking and charges the customer for an ashtray. That money goes into a fine jar for when they get busted.

I agree things should have been left up to the owners, but the large threat that second hand smoke danger prevailed.

I got a new CO meter to use to make sure the HVAC units don't have a cracks in the heat exchangers. According to the specs, CO ppm under 15 is acceptable, 15 to 30 is the mid point but not hazardous, over 30 is dangerous. My worker was smoking and I had him blow out smoke into a jar. I placed the sensor into the jar and it pegged out at 99. Now how is this guy alive? Sometimes I wonder if the limits of toxicity is being set into the extremes on most like asbestos, lead, mercury, etc. As a kid I used my teeth to fasten sinkers to my line, let mercury roll around in my hand, and ride in a smoke filled car for hours,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm still alive and well though,,,,,just don't know why?

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I smoke cigars, but not inside a business.
Just like I don't allow smoking in any of my vehicles.
Just don't do it and the gals don't allow it either cause they know I will find out.

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That is what I am talking about. Personal choice should prevail as long as does not infringe on the rights of others. If it is your vehicle or business then you do have more control over it. If it is theirs then they have control. The government should never have control....

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Let's not get too political on this one folks.

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Just walk about anyplace and look at the butts on the ground and what does that tell you about the habits of SOME smokers and how much they care about others

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I don't see it as particularly political although it may have some politics. I personally have never been and probably never will be a PC type person. I speak my mind and if people don't like, oh well. I will usually argue any point that I feel strongly about and if I have a doubt that I am right I will backdown, listen and then go look it up, but if I know I am right I will argue till I am blue in the face. I have proven myself right on more than a few occasions. However if I find out that I am wrong then I will go back and admit it. That has happened on more than a few occasions as well. That being said to me there are alot of issues that no matter how much you try to remove the politics you will never be able to and this is one of them. You can not remove the politics of it because the government has gotten involved. It is like trying to seperate church and state it can not ever truly happen. The word God is just about every where in our historical documents. Like a lot of other things I tolerate religion, just don't try and ram it down my throat. I do believe in God, my understanding may just be different than yours. That does not mean it is wrong. The massive problem is that so many people are not tolerant of anything and are always trying to ram their opinions and beliefs down everybody else's throat. I don't play that game very well. I do seriously hope that this doesn't offend anyone, but if does maybe you should ask yourself why. It is after all only my personal opinion.

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Well said, Tommays. I smoke, but I don't like the butts on the ground either. It is not that hard to put them where they belong. Some people are just uncaring and lazy and the rest of us get penalized for it.

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