johnson 85 outboard-wont go in reverse

I've been doing repairs to a 85 johnson that has been sitting outside for the last 15 years. the motor is running on all cylinders but it will not go into reverse. Even when pulling the lever in reverse it still goes forward. I'm new to outboard motors so I dont know what the problem could be.

Re: johnson 85 outboard-wont go in reverse

What is the model number of that engine so that we can determine exactly what model it is. There are a lot of 85hp models out there with different shift systems.

Re: johnson 85 outboard-wont go in reverse

the model number is 85ESL-70D, the serial number is J3334281. It is a Johnson 85 horse outboard hydro-electric engine. I have pictures available if that helps at all.

Re: johnson 85 outboard-wont go in reverse

(Hydro Electric Shift)
(J. Reeves)

The shifting setup of the lower unit is what's called a "Hydro Electric Shift", which is quite complex consisting of voltage being applied to solenoids in the lower unit which in turn change oil passages via a oil pump that supplies various pressure on a spring loaded shifter dog. The wires leading to the lower unit (at the powerhead) are "Green" and "Blue". The engine must be running or cranking over in order to shift out of forward gear.

You CAN NOT use HI VIS lube in that lower unit. You MUST USE what OMC calls "Premium Blend" lube, commonly called "Type C". (A thinner lube)

In neutral, you need 12v to the "Green" wire.
In reverse, you need 12v to both wires, the "Green" one and the "Blue" one.
In forward, there should be no voltage to either wire. (The spring loaded shifter dog forces the unit into forward gear)

To check the lower unit for proper shifting to make sure you have no trouble there, remove the spark plugs to avoid problems and to allow a higher cranking speed.

This next step eliminates the actual shift switch in case problems may exist there.... Disconnect the blue & green wires at the knife connectors (the rubber insulated boots) leading to the lower unit at the powerhead, then using jumpers, take voltage direct from the starter solenoid to apply voltage to the "Green" wire for neutral, then both wires 'Green" & "Blue" for reverse (Remember the engine must be cranking over in order to shift).
With no voltage applied, the unit should be in forward. No need for a ground jumper... the lower unit's already grounded. You may crank the engine with the key switch or by energizing the starter solenoid with a jumper wire.

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