Congrats St. Louis!

No, not for the World Series.

St. Louis just named America's most dangerous city.

Guess that's why they need the cloning initiative, in order to replace the population being murdered.

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>>The study looks at crime only within St. Louis city limits, with a population of about 330,000, Morgan said. It doesn't take into account the suburbs in St. Louis County, which has roughly 980,000 residents.


The city here is SO rundown. There are a lot of areas that are getting rebuilt, but the next block over will be a complete slum.

I had to drive through a pretty bad part of st. louis thursday, and there were a lot of stop signs I didn't even slow down for. Big groups of people just hanging out on the corners.... and they weren't waiting for a bus to get to work either.

There are a lot of great areas, but there is still too much garbage in the city that is just hard to get rid of.

Heroin and other drugs is the down right root of all the problems.

BUT, st. louis didn't have a riot when we won... Detroit would have burned to the ground

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and to add to Ndemge's post:
C&P
The annual ranking by Morgan Quitno Press, set for release today, returns St. Louis to the top of its list of major cities for crime. And following in 2006 baseball fashion, Detroit came in second.

Pretty much every autumn, the Kansas-based publisher of reference books and lists of statistics puts St. Louis near the top in crime, while civic leaders and criminologists decry its methodology. St. Louis placed third last year, and has been first before, in 2002.

The ranking is based on statistics compiled by the FBI, which has long discouraged city-to-city comparisons of the self-reported numbers. It does not compensate for the fact that some of the cities dominate their metropolitan areas, while the city of St. Louis has only about one-seventh of the population of its region.

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These studies are extremely flawed as they don't really address many of the issues faced by large urban areas with low populations. Cities like Detroit and St Louis have relatively low populations for such large cities. These types of studies often focus on percentage points, which aren't entirely inaccurate. However, in comparison to a city like NY, where the population is much larger, a violent crime is worth less on the per capita scale. Also, cities like those mentioned above have been struggleing to recover in our current economic climate, and during these times large urban centers always see a rise in crime rates across the board. I am not saying that Detroit is the safest city, trust me it has its places you just don't want to be. But to use the criteria these studies use and make the determinations they do is hardly an accurate portrayal of overall safety. I also believe that what is defined as a violent crime and how things are reported in different locals plays a part in skewing the results. Mind you I don't believe it is done intentionally or that the results are altogether wrong. I just feel that they must be viewed within the context of how the data is gathered and applied to truly understand the results. In all honesty all the safest/most dangerous/fattest/healthiest state/city studies are more for the mass media ratings than anything of real value to city planners and administrators. Just my opinion.

ndemge: We don't burn the city anymore, not a whole lot left to burn after the last couple times. Now we just loot and riot.

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Here is one reason that the crime rate is so skewed.

http://stlouis.missouri.org/citygov/planning/research/data/about/history.html

Here is a little cut and paste from the above link, notice Baltimore is similarly divided.

Between 1840 and 1860, the population exploded with the arrival of many new immigrants. Germans and Irish were the dominant ethnic groups settling in St. Louis, especially in the wake of the German Revolution and the Irish Potato Famine. St. Louis was a strategic location during the American Civil War, but it stayed firmly under Union control--in large part because of the fiercely loyal German influence. No major battle was fought in or near the city, although the "Battle of Camp Jackson" was a noteworthy skirmish fought on the modern-day location of the St. Louis University campus. Later waves of St. Louis settlers included Italians, Serbians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Greeks, who settled here by the late 19th-Century.
St. Louis's current boundaries were established in 1876, when voters approved separation from St Louis County and establishment of a home rule charter. St. Louis was the nation's first home rule city, but unlike most, it was separated from any county. Baltimore also is a similarly divided metropolis. Although this boundary would in the future prove a severe limitation to the City of St. Louis, at the time there was ample room for the city to grow within its fixed boundaries.