treedancer
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I started this post to try to let some of the people on the forum know that when they slant and distort articles it would be a good idea to do there homework.
1. Name a senator who compared our troops to Nazis?
Answer = Senator Richard Turbin Durbin.
Heres an excerpt, I have also included a link so you can read all of it.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
http://durbin.senate.gov/gitmo.cfm
2. Who called our soldier MURDERERS before they were even charged with a crime?
Answer= Jack Murtha, Liberal, Also failed to attend a homecoming of troops from his state being cycled home because he was making anti-troop statements.
With this background, Ill not question his insight but will let it play itself out.
After his discharge from active duty, Murtha reenlisted and volunteered to serve in Vietnam in 1966-67, where he won two purple hearts, a Bronze Star with Combat "V" and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.
3. Who called our troops TERRORISTS before any were even charged with a crime? Hint, he wanted to be president....
Answer = John War Hero Kerry, like the hint wasn't enough? But perhaps you can enlighen us how calling our troops terrorists really does support our troops.
John Kerry was on "Face The Nation being interviewed by Bob Schieffer,on , December 05, 2005,this is his statement that the right, has been putting out that he has stated that our troops are TERRORISTS.
And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs.
This has to be one of the biggest stretches in the long list of distortions that I have seen in a long while. If so we must have lot of law enforcement officers that qualify as terrorist for just doing their jobs. How can anybody take that statement to mean that Sen. Kerry is calling our troops Terrorist? Another right wing distortion of the truth. It seems nothing will deter them from trying to get their distorted message across .
4. Who called our president and CIC a liar and a bag man for "BIG OIL"? Hint, its hard to get this one wrong.......... I'll make it easier, what side of the political spectrum would all of them be from?
Answer= E) John War Hero Kerry, like the hint wasn't enough? .
I think I would rather be called a bagman than called a
murder.
Heres something to think about. Remember the uproar that this caused in the right wing circles.
Quote, Dixie Chicks singer Natalie Maines [Just so you know, were ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas.] BoyO boy did that cause about two weeks of scorn on the hate radio circuit against Chicks for saying that.
when Jerry Falwell was selling these tapes not a peep.Reverend Jerry Falwell, regularly peddled a tape on his Old Time Gospel Hour, whichamong many other things, accused the president of the United States of murder. When it came to Clinton, it was all systems goyou could even accuse him of murder! But when it comes to Bush, new rules apply.What a bunch of hypocrites .
5. Who published a story that was TOTALLY FALSE about our troops abusing Korans?
Answer= Michael Isikoff, Newsweek, 14 people died in resulting riots due to his lack of balance and proper research
Granted fourteen people died because of what Michael Isikoff wrote,that is small compared to what was started by the lies that got us into Iraq. It seems that America is losing about five hundred troops a day to death and injuries due to a bunch of made up the lies and distorted figures that the neo-cons put out to get us into Iraq.,
The Man Who
Sold The War
Meet John Rendon, Bush's
General In The Propaganda War
Rolling Stone (Nov. 17, 2005),
Excerpt
Chalabi was a curious choice to lead a rebellion. In 1992, he was convicted in Jordan
of making false statements and embezzling $230 million from his own bank, for
which he was sentenced in absentia to twenty-two years of hard labor. But the only
credential that mattered was his politics. "From day one," Rendon says, "Chalabi was
very clear that his biggest interest was to rid Iraq of Saddam." Bruner, who dealt with
Chalabi and Rendon in London in 1991, puts it even more bluntly. "Chalabi's primary
focus," he said later, "was to drag us into a war."
Read all about it here.
http://www.nogw.com/download/2005_meet_john_rendon.pdf
If bush supporters think the Iraq war has made us safer, then they dont understand terrorism, they dont understand al-Qaida, they dont understand what has happened over the last five years and cannot be trusted with Americas security. Had we not invaded Iraq, al-Qaida would have been destroyed by now.
No im not into running out on the war that Bush started, im dedicated to letting the iraq army or whatever it is take a lions share of the grunge work. Weve done what we can, we can provide logistical, and air support, expertise and consultation, in their reconstruction. But let them do the patrolling of there streets. We sure dont need to provide 130,000 targets.
How about a little more commitment to homeland security, we have some very porous borders, sure would be nice to take care of that. A lot of undocumented , in our country sure would be nice to check out who they are. How about putting some teeth in the hiring of illegals, seems to me that should take some of the heat off of the borders, if there were no jobs for them to come too,if they did not have legal status.
Careful Ive got some chum scattered about.
.
1. Name a senator who compared our troops to Nazis?
Answer = Senator Richard Turbin Durbin.
Heres an excerpt, I have also included a link so you can read all of it.
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
http://durbin.senate.gov/gitmo.cfm
2. Who called our soldier MURDERERS before they were even charged with a crime?
Answer= Jack Murtha, Liberal, Also failed to attend a homecoming of troops from his state being cycled home because he was making anti-troop statements.
With this background, Ill not question his insight but will let it play itself out.
After his discharge from active duty, Murtha reenlisted and volunteered to serve in Vietnam in 1966-67, where he won two purple hearts, a Bronze Star with Combat "V" and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.
3. Who called our troops TERRORISTS before any were even charged with a crime? Hint, he wanted to be president....
Answer = John War Hero Kerry, like the hint wasn't enough? But perhaps you can enlighen us how calling our troops terrorists really does support our troops.
John Kerry was on "Face The Nation being interviewed by Bob Schieffer,on , December 05, 2005,this is his statement that the right, has been putting out that he has stated that our troops are TERRORISTS.
And there is no reason, Bob, that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the--of--the historical customs, religious customs.
This has to be one of the biggest stretches in the long list of distortions that I have seen in a long while. If so we must have lot of law enforcement officers that qualify as terrorist for just doing their jobs. How can anybody take that statement to mean that Sen. Kerry is calling our troops Terrorist? Another right wing distortion of the truth. It seems nothing will deter them from trying to get their distorted message across .
4. Who called our president and CIC a liar and a bag man for "BIG OIL"? Hint, its hard to get this one wrong.......... I'll make it easier, what side of the political spectrum would all of them be from?
Answer= E) John War Hero Kerry, like the hint wasn't enough? .
I think I would rather be called a bagman than called a
murder.
Heres something to think about. Remember the uproar that this caused in the right wing circles.
Quote, Dixie Chicks singer Natalie Maines [Just so you know, were ashamed that the president of the United States is from Texas.] BoyO boy did that cause about two weeks of scorn on the hate radio circuit against Chicks for saying that.
when Jerry Falwell was selling these tapes not a peep.Reverend Jerry Falwell, regularly peddled a tape on his Old Time Gospel Hour, whichamong many other things, accused the president of the United States of murder. When it came to Clinton, it was all systems goyou could even accuse him of murder! But when it comes to Bush, new rules apply.What a bunch of hypocrites .
5. Who published a story that was TOTALLY FALSE about our troops abusing Korans?
Answer= Michael Isikoff, Newsweek, 14 people died in resulting riots due to his lack of balance and proper research
Granted fourteen people died because of what Michael Isikoff wrote,that is small compared to what was started by the lies that got us into Iraq. It seems that America is losing about five hundred troops a day to death and injuries due to a bunch of made up the lies and distorted figures that the neo-cons put out to get us into Iraq.,
The Man Who
Sold The War
Meet John Rendon, Bush's
General In The Propaganda War
Rolling Stone (Nov. 17, 2005),
Excerpt
Chalabi was a curious choice to lead a rebellion. In 1992, he was convicted in Jordan
of making false statements and embezzling $230 million from his own bank, for
which he was sentenced in absentia to twenty-two years of hard labor. But the only
credential that mattered was his politics. "From day one," Rendon says, "Chalabi was
very clear that his biggest interest was to rid Iraq of Saddam." Bruner, who dealt with
Chalabi and Rendon in London in 1991, puts it even more bluntly. "Chalabi's primary
focus," he said later, "was to drag us into a war."
Read all about it here.
http://www.nogw.com/download/2005_meet_john_rendon.pdf
If bush supporters think the Iraq war has made us safer, then they dont understand terrorism, they dont understand al-Qaida, they dont understand what has happened over the last five years and cannot be trusted with Americas security. Had we not invaded Iraq, al-Qaida would have been destroyed by now.
No im not into running out on the war that Bush started, im dedicated to letting the iraq army or whatever it is take a lions share of the grunge work. Weve done what we can, we can provide logistical, and air support, expertise and consultation, in their reconstruction. But let them do the patrolling of there streets. We sure dont need to provide 130,000 targets.
How about a little more commitment to homeland security, we have some very porous borders, sure would be nice to take care of that. A lot of undocumented , in our country sure would be nice to check out who they are. How about putting some teeth in the hiring of illegals, seems to me that should take some of the heat off of the borders, if there were no jobs for them to come too,if they did not have legal status.
Careful Ive got some chum scattered about.
.