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Old October 10th, 2006, 02:25 PM
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Default 1989 Evinrude 200 VRO - Starting Problems

This motor runs great, when it's running and it will only run if I start it Every Day. By starting it every day, I pump the primer 5 times and it's off in a half a spin.

But, if I let it sit for three days or more... it may take 30 minutes to get it to spit once and another hour to get it to start.

It appears to have spark and fuel.
I replaced the powerpack last year.
Two good batteries, spin it real strong.
When running, it charges at about 14.5 volts

Anyone have ideas or suggestions?

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Old October 10th, 2006, 02:45 PM
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2 questions (for now) --

What spark plugs are you using?

Are you pumping the bulb until it's firm before you try to start it?
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Old October 12th, 2006, 06:06 PM
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2 questions (for now) --

What spark plugs are you using?
[colour=Blue]CHAMPION L77JC4 (two seasons on them)[/colour]

Are you pumping the bulb until it's firm before you try to start it?
[colour=Blue]Yes, pumped and firm (after many starting attempts, it needs another squeeze)[/colour]

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Old October 12th, 2006, 08:48 PM
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You don't say if you're pushing the key in (engaging the fuel primer solenoid) when starting the engine (look upon this solenoid as a electric choke).

If you're overlooking this step..... fuel primer bulb hard, key turned to the start position, key pushed in until the engine fires..... it would surprise me if the engine ever started. Is this the case?
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Old October 13th, 2006, 07:37 PM
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Yes... pushing the key in to prime.
Guess I should give the details of exactly how I'm going about this and the results.

1. Battery switch on "All". Two very good batteries kept topped off.
2. Squeeze bulb until firm
3. Using key primer (I've tried this two ways... turn key on position and press key in 10 times [can hear primer click at engine] then turn to start. Also have tried pressing key in at the same time as turning the engine over) there doesn't seem to be much difference.

If I haven't started it in 3 or more days,,, If I'm lucky,, after many tries it may kick one time,,, then the starter disengages. As I keep trying it will eventually sputter a little more each time until it starts... then may run on 3-4 cylinders for a minute or so. Also, by that timeĀ… a lot of smoke

On the other hand... if I go down each night after work and start it... every night, it will start right up,,, running on all six, no problem.

Tonight (it's been 2 days) it won't even kick one cylinder once. I left it and will try again tomorrow morning.
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Old October 13th, 2006, 08:32 PM
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Proper sequence.....

1 - Pump fuel primer bulb until hard.

2 - If the fast start feature is enabled, leave throttle in idle position. If not enabled, apply a slight bit of throttle, just enough to take throttle butterflies off idle position.

3 - Turn key to start position and hold key in until engine fires (approximately 6 revolutions).

Just to check to see if the primer solenoid might have a weird malfunction in the start position.....

Remove the carburetor face plate. Remove the wire from the starter solenoid that energizes that solenoid. Have the primer bulb pumped up hard. Remove one of the small primer hoses leading from the primer solenoid to the intake manifold "AT" the intake manifold. Turn the key to the start position & hold it there (the engine should not crank over with the wire removed from the starter solenoid). Push the key in.

At that point, fuel should have shot out of that small hose. Did it?
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Old October 14th, 2006, 03:06 PM
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Thanks, I will execute that check today.

Now, it wouldn't kick last night so I just left the engine in the water and went down this morning. Pumped the bulb (didn't take much) and pushed the key in while turning. It started after two attempts and ran on all 6 cylinders.

A "dock advisor" suggested that the valves were gummed up after it sat for a few days... another suggested that it had poor compression and that was the issue. Far reaching????
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Old October 18th, 2006, 01:44 PM
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OK, the primer solenoid appears to be working, with fuel delivered when the Key is pushed in. Also, I ran all the fuel out this past weekend and put in 35 fresh gallons.
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Old October 20th, 2006, 11:08 AM
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Thanks, I will execute that check today.

Now, it wouldn't kick last night so I just left the engine in the water and went down this morning. Pumped the bulb (didn't take much) and pushed the key in while turning. It started after two attempts and ran on all 6 cylinders.

A "dock advisor" suggested that the valves were gummed up after it sat for a few days... another suggested that it had poor compression and that was the issue. Far reaching????
What valves? It's a 2 stroke motor (no valves here). Poor compression isn't too likely, but easy to check with a compression tester. If everything's working, it may have been starting technique.

I would find a new "dock advisor".

BTW, after the motor first fires, you may need to bump the primer a few times to keep it going.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 04:25 PM
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I think he may have been referrig to "reed valves". That's true about bumping the primer to keep it going for the first 15 seconds or so. Seems like I'm at a dead end, don't know what else could be the problem. Thanks for your input. - Jim
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
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This may narrow it down a bit. I've found that if the engine won't start and I let it sit for 3 hours or to the next morning, then it will start. I also see oil driping from the carb air silencer cover.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 11:30 PM
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You may want to consider replacing the recirculation check valves sometime soon.
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