Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

RG190LS

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I have a 2001 Stingray 190LS with a 4.3l carburated engine. This motor has had a dieseling problem from day one. Had the boat back to the dealer two weeks after bought to chech timeing, engine temp and carburator, they said everything is in spec. Motor still diesel, the problem occures with regular and premium although it is'nt quite as bad with some premium. I've checked the plugs and one cyclinder is running lean. Is there a cure for this issue. Is there any way of adjusting the mixture on a Merc 2bbl carbuator with no external adjusting screws
 

Don S

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

I usually find the idle speed is too high or the engine is brought back to idle after a good run and shut off immediatly. Allow it a couple of minutes to cool down and it should stop the dieseling.
Here is a service bulletin put out by Merc.

http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Bullet/97/97_17.pdf
 

Bunky

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

It sounds to me like the timing is off, Thats what usually cures it on car's on a Car you can shut it off in gear to stop this but I'm not sure that the out drive would create enough resistance to stop the engine
 

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

I agree with Don. If timing is set to specs, idle speed is usually the culprit.

Definatly read Don's link.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

You've got good posts above,and the dieseling can be cured but it's done step by step.

I'm curious about which cylinder was lean,and how you knew it.

Nothing earth-shattering,But MAYBE I have a little more of an idea ..........

DHP
 

RG190LS

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

The cyclinder that looked lean was the left rear as one looks out the stern. That judgement was made by gauging the deposits on the plugs. Generally dark deposits indicate a rich burn, a light brown is a good color, and white deposits indicate a lean condition. IN regards to timming I have heard that something (the modual?) has to be by passed in order to set the timming. Does anyone know the procedure.
 

Don S

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Re: Mercruiser 4.3L 2bbl run on problem

Below is from the Mercruiser service manual that you should have if you plan on doing your own maintenance.
You need book #25 Merc PN 90-861328-1

You timing needs to be at 10° BTDC
Idle speed should be 650 rpm for your engine.


[colour=blue]Timing and Idle Adjustment Procedures
Setting Base Ignition Timing

1. Connect timing light (91-99379 or similar) to No. 1 spark plug wire. Connect power
supply leads, if applicable, on light to 12 volt battery.
2. Connect a shop tachometer to engine.
3. Using a jumper wire, connect the ignition system timing lead (PUR/WHT wire) to a good
engine ground (–). This locks the ignition module into the Base Timing Mode.
NOTE: Before starting engine make sure the timing tab and marks on damper are clean.
Chalk or white paint on timing marks may help visibility.

4. Start engine and run at normal idle speed. Allow engine to reach normal operating
temperature.
5. Aim timing light at timing tab, located on the timing gear cover and crankshaft torsional
damper.
6. If adjustment is required, adjust timing by loosening distributor clamp and rotating
distributor body as required until timing mark on damper or pulley lines up with the mark
on tab specified in “Specifications.” Tighten clamp and recheck location of timing mark.
7. Make sure that the distributor has been tightened. Remove the jumper wire from the
timing terminal.
8. Remove jumper wire between the timing lead (PUR/WHT wire) and ground (–).
IMPORTANT: Be sure to disconnect the jumper wire from between the ignition system
timing lead and ground (–) before attempting to resume normal operations. If the
jumper wire is left in place, the ignition module will operate in the Base Timing Mode.
This means that the additional timing advance features would not function.
9. Stop engine and remove timing light.


Adjusting Idle Mixture
The procedure for adjusting carburetor idle mixture can be found in the appropriate engine
service manual. This procedure also requires that the ignition module be locked in the “Base
Timing Mode.”
IMPORTANT: In order to properly set idle mixture, the ignition module MUST BE
locked in the Base Timing Mode. This is necessary because of the Idle Speed Control
feature that exists in the ignition module. See information on the previous pages
about this feature.

To adjust the idle mixture screw correctly, the throttle plates must be nearly closed. Please
do the following:
1. Disconnect throttle cable.
2. Set idle speed (rpm) screw so engine idles at 550-600 rpm in neutral gear.
3. Adjust idle mixture screw.
4. Reset the idle speed screw until engine idles at its recommended rpm.
5. Adjust and connect throttle cable.[/colour]
 
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