How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

stant1man

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Hi folks,<br /><br />I'm trying to get and extra 300 or so rpm from my stainless prop. Its a 13 x <br />18p originally off a Yamaha but fitted like a glove. It currently revs to <br />5000rpm when loaded and 5200rpm with just me and a passenger. 42mph tops.<br /><br />Are there any tricks without changing pitch to get a little more rpm out of <br />my motor. It used to be an 1150 before i made some changes to make it a <br />1350.<br /><br />I put .080 jets in the carbs, would changing to .0785 make any difference.<br /><br />Many Thanks<br /><br /><br />Stan
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Go to the prop section. Start a post and ask what you can do to the prop to get more RPM'S. Tim
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

If you think you changed that to a 135 by changing jets, you're mistaken. You simply overrichened the fuel mixture and that would result in a loss of full throttle RPMs. The carbs are different, not just the jets. Put the original jets back in there and you should get the correct performance from it again.
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Willy is right you would have to bore it to get 135 or a lot of porting & polishing + a few tricks. Tim
 

stant1man

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Willy did you look into that before you wrote it down or did you just burp lol. I beg to differ gentlemen but respect your input. <br /><br />Fact - the only difference between the 1972 1150(which i had) and the 1971 1350 were the main jets, carb venturis and reed stops, all which have been changed. There is no difference in pistons, bore sizes, carbs or porting. <br /><br />The one thing i might have over done was the jet sizes, i put 0.080 jets in when the 1350 had 0.785, a tiny tiny difference but perhaps the difference im looking for.<br /><br />Stan :)
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Stan is correct. The *only* differnce between the SILVER BLOCK 1150's (70, 71, 72) and the 1350 was the reed stop openings. <br /><br />Then the carb venturi's and main jets are changed to the 1350 parts to complete the package.<br /><br />I don't think that slight difference in main jet size will matter much.<br /><br />-W
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Stan back to the original quistion, have you tryed to raising the engine on the transom the higher you can run it and not lose prop bit the faster you can go thus the old racing saying " when in doubt up and out"--Bob
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

THATS MY LINE LADDIES!!! :D
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Reread my post please. I said IF the only thing you did was put in larger jets, you didn't make it a 135. Obviously that wasn't the only thing you did. ;) <br /><br />We get posts regarding putting larger jets in carbs to get more Hp on a fairly regulat basis. More than a few have come on thinking that was all there was to it. All that does is screw-up the mixture resulting in a Loss of power. Please be more complete with your information in the future. Too much information is better than not enough. I don't have a drawer for Crystal Balls in my toolbox. I wouldn't take anything to a mechanic that did. :rolleyes:
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Sorry, I was starting to feel like a certain former FEMA director. (Perhaps you've heard the latest scandal in the States?) ;) <br /><br />Regarding the jets. You need to answer that question yourself. The single best way to do that is to have a look how your sparkplugs are burning. Different jets perform differently in different locations and different applications. In a nutshell, they shouldn't look wet or dry. There should be a slight sheen as if damp. The closer to tan deposits, the leaner the mixture. The closer to black, the richer. You want something inbetween. Closer to tan gives you the most power but you flirt with detonating a piston or two. Too black and you carbon-up and break rings. You probably want to be on the light side of brown to get the most out of your package, but not tan. The unfortunate part is that you probably have surface gap plugs. Same rules apply, but conventional plugs are much easier to read.<br /><br />Regarding the prop. You want maximum rated RPMs to get the full horsepower from your motor. More horsepower generally translates to more speed. So for the most speed from that prop, you probably want to have it repitched an inch lower, maybe two. That's your only option other than grinding away at the thickness of the blades or playing with the cup.<br /><br />Addendum: That's an even pitch. 4-blade props usually come in even pitches. I don't know why, but it seems like the inlines don't push a 4-blade too well. I would think 18 would be a fairly low pitch otherwise. You usually see those with 3-blade 19s or 21s and they turn them fine (depending on the boat, of course). Performance props of the era had two blades. Also, Merc Towers Love RPMs. 6,000 wouldn't scare me.
 

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Re: How to get a few more rpm from my engine?? Please Help...

Doesn't anyone out there remember when part of any engine installation, Keikhaefer Corp. recommended the use of rev sticks between the engine and transom on all preformance rigs or is it just to much work
 
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