Dies when put in gear

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88 Evinrude 200XP<br /><br />Engine cranks, starts, runs and idles great when in neutral. But when I put it in gear (fwd or rev) and give it some throttle, it boggs down and dies. <br /><br />Don't know where to start. any suggestions?
 

mikeyzx2

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Re: Dies when put in gear

Welcome to iboats!<br /><br />Sounds like carburetion problem. What's your best knowledge of maintanence history of motor? Best best is to overhaul the carburetors and do link and synch. Get an OEM manual to help you out, through www.kencook.com or www.marineengine.com for starters. Specifically for the '88 200XP. <br /><br />Any restrictions in the high speed jets, whether it's dirt, varnish, gummed up, will not allow the fuel flow necessary when you open up the throttle. <br /><br />That's a start, you'll be hearing alot more than that from others soon.
 

GRADY204

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Re: Dies when put in gear

My 1995 Johnson 200Hp had the same (exact)problem. Idled fine, reved well, no burps, backfires, or any indication of a problem. But, as soon as I popped her into gear, she would bog then die. Hell of a problem. I looked at my carbs, primer bulb, timing, VRO fuel lines, etc, etc. Turned out that I had a burned Stator. I had the flywheel pulled, and there was a broken magnet, and the Stator was melted. Check the spark to all the cylinders. It may be losing spark as it bogs. Just one thought. All I know that I was conviced it was a fuel problem...so was the mechanic...good luck, Grady
 

GRADY204

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By the way, mechanic feels that a loose battery post to my Pergo Battery Selector Switch, was the primary culprit for my Stator's early demise.
 

OBJ

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Re: Dies when put in gear

Is this engine new to you or did the problem just crop up?<br /><br />Get a set of compression readings on all the holes. <br /><br />Check your spark with the engine running at idle. You can do this with and inductive timing light.
 
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Mikeyzx2 - Ive had this boat about 6 years. Ive never had it checked or tuned up. Just grease and change the foot oil. Its always run great. My season runs from May-Oct here. I don't winterize where Im at, so I take it out to the local lake every month and run it for a while. This problem seems to have started about two summers ago. I would notice that on initial accelaration it would bog down, but after a couple of minutes it would catch up and be fine the rest of the day. Then last year it had the same boggy-ness, and also the throttle was hard to pull back to idle after the initial run of the day. The rest of the day it was fine.
 
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Grady204 - Thanks for the tip on the burnt stator. Would have never thought of that one. Is there an easy way to test the stator instead of having to pull the flywheel?
 
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OBJ - See post above about the last two seasons. Could you email me details on how to check the spark using a timing light? I don't have a clue on what to look for while Im using a timing light to check the spark.<br /><br />Eventhough Im using Sta-bil in my tank, the gas is about 4mos old. The plugs havent been changed in a few years as well. When the weather breaks (rain) next week, Im going to drain the tanks and put in fresh fuel. Ill change the plugs and do a compression test on all the cylinders while Im at it.<br /><br />Should I use a good fuel additive/carb cleaner with the fuel to help clean the carbs as well?
 

Solittle

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Re: Dies when put in gear

After market fuel additives will not clean crud out of a carb. There is only one way to get it right & that is a rebuild. Use the OMC shop manual.
 

ob

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Re: Dies when put in gear

My guess is that your carb links are out of adjustment with the advance of the timer base.Link and Synch.Your engine should have fiber cam that the throttle linkage roller actuates.With controls in the neutral position ,check and see if the rollers are exacly inline and "just touching" the scribed factory line on the fiber cam.There is adjustment screws that can be loosened and retightened.This issue you're having is actually quite common.At times you may even be able to punch throttle through the flat spot and get the engine to grab.Another item that can cause this very symptom is the idle mix a bit too lean.Don't know if your carbs have fixed orifices or adjustable idle mix screws.Anyway,a link and synch procedure is a good starting point for your symptom.
 

GRADY204

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jnichols<br />As far as I know, you would have to pull off the rectifier(I think 4 bolts)so you can access the wires coming from your Stator. At that point you would need an Ohm meter to check the resistance. A shop manual would be very handy. I however had the flywheel pulled, and once done it was quite obvious that the Stator had been extremly hot; to the point of melting the electrical conduit.<br />Amazing , once this motor was under way, it ran perfect. But as, soon as I pulled back into neutral, she would just bog down and die...sure thought it was a fuel problem. Took it to the mechanic he adjusted the carbs,$400.00 later, I was on my way. No improvement whatsoever.<br />However, unlike your problem, my engine worsened throughot the day. You never know, undoubtly, you will get lots of suggestions, with many angles, from many years of experience. And one of the suggestions will fix your problem. Good luck, Grady
 
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Problem solved! Many, many thanks to each of you. Thank you very much for all your skill and advise.<br /><br />The main problem turned out to be magnets came loose from the Flywheel AND the stator glue material had melted down on the adv timing plate and stuck it in place.<br /><br />I also put it in the shop to have it checked out good. Compression was excellent on all cyl (100psi). Replaced plugs, cleaned carbs, and did a link&sync. Runs like new now!<br /><br />Hope someone else can use this info to help them out!!
 

MCM

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jnichols, A big thanks for posting back with the solution. It definately helps others when they can search out posts with happy endings :D ;)
 

longHair

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Re: Dies when put in gear

88' evin 60 hp put in gear dies could a bad rectifier
be the problem to.
 
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