Thanks for all the help in the past. I can tell you like these older motors, My johnson 67 20hp? t-stat don't have a spring should there be one? The kit I got for it had a spring and lots of other parts could this kit be for different motors the t-stat was the same but thats all the gasket was even different I had to make my own thanks for any input Paul Ps never new outboards had T-stats untill I found this site great place to be