Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

puli

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Hi,<br />I have an Evinrude 35 hp (3-cyl.) year 1998 or -99. It has been running great except that the ignition control box has been changed once after 6 months of use.<br /><br />All the troubles started out this summer: I've done some fishing earlier at low speed, no smoke, great idle. But this summer thick smoke has been following the boat at idle speed. First, I thought that oil mixing pump has to be broken (I checked the spark plugs, etc. before that). I replaced the pump with a used one, (from a well running, nearly new motor), but there was still the smoke! I checked the compression of the cylinders and the fuel pumps, OK. Additionally, I checked the ignition by detaching the spark plug wires, and the motor ran with all cylinders (also every cylinder separately). However, removing the spark plug wires of the two upper cylinders had less influence on idle than the lowest one. Since the replacment of the oil pump did not work, I had to take the boat to the mechanic. At his point, I thought that the reason might be the ignition box missing some fire for the upper two cylinders. Gas drops coming out of exhaust every 4-5 seconds also indicated that the motor gets too much gas in addition with oil. It has to be stated that the motor has been running great at high speed, only the idle is the problem. The smoke starts to come out 3-4 minutes after slowing down to idle or to very low speed.<br /><br />I got my boat back from the mechanic about three weeks ago and the diagnosis was --- the oil mixing pump was broken. It was a bit difficult to believe that since the pump was from another motor, but, anyhow, they are the experts... Additionally, they said that the hoses of the fuel pumps were incorrectly installed, i.e. in wrong order (I had not changed them!). However, I was happy to get my boat back, but quite unhappy to pay 466€ for the pump only.<br /><br />Now, you may ask why did I wrote here, since everything has been fixed. No, the smoke started to come out again a couple of days ago, after only 5 gallons of use. I have also tried to change the 2-stroke oil brand, but no help. Before I take my boat back to the mechanic, I want to ask if anybody has same kind of an experience. The oil pump just cannot be the reason. I'm still thinking that this could have something do with the ignition box. The strange thing is that the engine also seems to be consuming some extra oil, which doesn't quite fit the ignition fail. However, the fuel pumps are operated by the vacum hoses coming from the cam chamber(?), and the oil pump is operated by the fuel pressure and flow. I was thinking that the unburnt fuel in the cam chamber may cause some extra trouble for fuel pumps and fuel pressure and that may change the operation of the oil pump and the oil mixing ratio. So,please let me know, if you have any ideas for the possible causes.<br /><br />Many thanks in advance for your answers!<br /><br />Pasi/Finland
 

clanton

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Re: Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

Convert to premix. Dump the oil pump and mix 50-1 in fuel tank. There are a few service bulletins on pump and hoses. One of the problems was the pulse hose to pump, hose had spring inside that would migrate thru the fitting into the crank case, not enough room in crankcase for spring and crankshaft. I would also recheck the powerpack and ignition coils.
 

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Re: Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

Hi Clanton,<br /><br />Many thanks for your fast reply. What do you mean by the pulse hose? There is no hose between the crankcase and the oil pump. It seems that the fuel pressure also operates the oil pump. However, it seems that in my case the oil pump is not necessarily the (only) problem, since it's already the third pump in use and still smoking. But still it might be wise to star to use the pre-mix gas. The only thing is that I would like to keep the motor as original as possible...and I also would like to fix the problem and know the reason for that. <br /><br />It seem that this specific Evinrude model has caused lots of problems. It's a pity, since when OK, nice to ride, good idle, quite silent, etc.<br /><br />Any other proposals?<br /><br />Pasi
 

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Re: Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

Any ideas?
 

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Re: Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

The over oiling is most likly caused by air leaks in fuel system. You can place a short piece of clear fuel after the second fuel pump, to check for air bubbles, air bubbles means air leak. The two fuel pumps are not the same and cannot be interchanged, one pumps fuel from tank to sccond pump, second pump pumps to carbuator. See service bulletin 2337 excessive oil comsumption, and 2339 pulse fitting. Recheck powerpack, sensor, and ignition coils.
 

puli

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Re: Evinrude 35 (3-cyl.) 1998/99, oil mixing problem?

Ok Clanton,<br /><br />I checked the fuel system with a piece of clear hose, and, YES, lots of bubbles: I would say some 30% - 50% of the total flow is pure air! No wonder the mixture is a bit rich in oil. I havn't located the possible leak yet, but I'll start to work on it. Hopefully this is the reason for the problems. Many thanks for your advice!<br /><br />Pasi
 
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