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    Default Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    I just bought a Steury Stinger 1700 with a 200hp Mercury motor. It has a reinforced stainless steel stern to support the 200hp motor as this boat is rated at only 125hp. The previous owner said he's gotten it up to 75mph, of course I didn't buy this boat for speed as it's not a speed boat by any means. It was a good bargain and I wanted a boat.

    It is my first boat. I am learning as I go. The boat didn't come with any seats. I have already ripped up the rotted carpet and checked the flooring. There are no rotten spots in the wood. Everything feels sturdy when I walk around in the boat. There are some soft spots where the previous seats were mounted as they were screwed into the floor and now they are not there. I am not planning on replacing the floor this year, as I just want to get it on the water this summer. I plan on building seats, painting it and then rebuilding the floor, the seats are the only thing that I plan for this year. The battery in the boat was completely dead. It was a strange looking battery as well. It has 2 large posts and 2 small posts. The positive large posts has a large connector on it. The negative large post had nothing on it. Then both the little posts had several things plugged into it. I have since then tried testing it, it failed, and also almost exploded when trying to charge it. Since that time a friend brought over a car battery. The story I was given is it last ran in September of last year. I was also told they tried to jump the boat before they sold it to me and it started but wouldn't stay started. So back to the battery. We followed wires and hooked a volt/ohm meter up to them and tried to the best of our powers to get it started from the friends car battery. Every attempt failed. My brother and the friend are both mechanics and shrugged their shoulders. They were however amused by the way this outboard motor is designed. Modern marvels, I tell you what.

    So I guess my first question in this forum is can one use such a car battery to try to start a boat. Should I get the proper battery. Which battery do I get, as I said I'm a novice and dunno exactly what is what with boating yet. Please be gentle. I will post pics later if it helps. Maybe I can takes pics of the wires and try to identify them for you and one of you can possibly help me out over the world wide web. Ha!

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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    I will post pics later if it helps.
    Ayuh,... That'll Help...
    A 12v battery is a 12v battery as far as starting purposes go...
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    Be carefull not to cause arking when trying to jump start. Lots of expensive electrical parts in a boat motor

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    get rid of the dead battery and get a good deep cycle marine battery with adequate cold cranking amps for that motor. Was the car battery from a smaller car that requires less cold cranking amps? I jumped my 140 with a battery from my SUV two weeks ago and it did fine. Also, you mentioned that it cranked but wouldnt keep running .... and "every attempt failed" with the car battery. Does that mean the car battery turned the motor fine but wouldnt start OR wouldnt turn the motor at all OR turned the motor but too slow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bond-o View Post
    Ayuh,... That'll Help...
    A 12v battery is a 12v battery as far as starting purposes go...
    I'm currently out of town, but I will get some pics for you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chenta View Post
    Be carefull not to cause arking when trying to jump start. Lots of expensive electrical parts in a boat motor
    Yeah, thanks for the advice, I definitely don't want that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyViewGS View Post
    get rid of the dead battery and get a good deep cycle marine battery with adequate cold cranking amps for that motor. Was the car battery from a smaller car that requires less cold cranking amps? I jumped my 140 with a battery from my SUV two weeks ago and it did fine. Also, you mentioned that it cranked but wouldnt keep running .... and "every attempt failed" with the car battery. Does that mean the car battery turned the motor fine but wouldnt start OR wouldnt turn the motor at all OR turned the motor but too slow?

    MyViewGS
    Dead battery is long gone, the battery was prolly from a small car as the friend likes "Honda's". I'm Chevy man myself so him racing his "Honda's" around just makes me shake my head. I have never personally gotten it started, the person that sold it to me claimed they did successfully jump it but said it wouldn't stay started. That it could be a "starter" which I highly doubt if he got it started or it needs carb work, which is more likely I would think. I'm also thinking maybe it's old gas, but like I said I'm pretty new to this boating scene. It's a 2 stroke Mercury 200 V6, the boat is a 79', I dunno the year of the engine though as it didn't come with the boat. I wouldn't even know how to find that out either. I have tried downloading manuals off this website actually but nothing in there really helped, so I don't know if I got the right ones or not.

    I appreciate any help in advance. Thanks...

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    there should be a plug on top of the motor or maybe a tag somewhere on the block that will have the engine info for you. Also try looking in the area where the transom mount is located

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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    You need to purchase a manual for the motor. No shortcuts. The manual information on this site is provided for I/O only.

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    So I finally figured out the wiring. I think I have narrowed it down to a starter. My bindex spring is not activating. I dunno if it's because it needs lube or it's just not spinning fast enough. I have tested it on 3 different batteries though and each one has not been able to activate the bindex spring. I will take this somewhere to get it bench tested by a professional though.

    On a side note though I have tried just manual moving the bindex up to the flywheel. When both of them meet and I try to start the boat it spins slightly but not by much. Not enough to even try sparking the plugs. Does this sound like a bad starter?

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    Thanks for replying... Anyways, I got the starter tested at Advance Auto Parts, they said it was bad. I decided to see what AutoZone said about it too and they refused to test it since it didn't come from a automobile. So that makes me wonder. When Advance tested it, I saw the bindex gear jump halfway, but not all the way, farther than I've ever gotten it by jumping it. He said it wasn't in the green. I think he was talking maybe amps, cause when I looked at the meter where he was referring to I saw the green was about at 15 and I think mine only got to 7 or 8...does that sound right?

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    Welcome to iboats!

    One way around your engine woes: Sell it and buy one of the proper rating. The reinforcement of the transom does NOT increase the HP rating, and you could have various legal and operational problems running the 200.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYBo View Post
    Welcome to iboats!

    One way around your engine woes: Sell it and buy one of the proper rating. The reinforcement of the transom does NOT increase the HP rating, and you could have various legal and operational problems running the 200.
    Well thank you...first one to welcome me..

    Not going to happen, try again...I'm in Texas, no laws about overpowering and I was quoted through I think it was Progressive with them knowing I have a higher powered motor on it. Also as I said, I didn't buy it expecting it to be a speed boat, it just happened to have that motor on the boat.

    Now could we please stay on topic here? Thanks!

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    Sorry, but I'm a "safety first" kind of guy, especially when it comes to boating.

    Okay, on-topic it is.

    How big is this boat? Seventy five MPH is really flying, even for 200 HP. Could this have been a bit of, um, optimism on the part of the previous owner?

    A new starter (or a rebuild of your current one) is the first place to start. Then proceed to a test of compression and spark.

    But even before diagnosing the motor problems, have you checked the structure of the boat- any rot? You said the spots where the seats used to be are soft. Hopefully, no water got into the structure from any bolt holes.

    Of course, this entire discussion would be much more satisfying with with some pictures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYBo View Post
    Sorry, but I'm a "safety first" kind of guy, especially when it comes to boating.

    Okay, on-topic it is.

    How big is this boat? Seventy five MPH is really flying, even for 200 HP. Could this have been a bit of, um, optimism on the part of the previous owner?

    A new starter (or a rebuild of your current one) is the first place to start. Then proceed to a test of compression and spark.

    But even before diagnosing the motor problems, have you checked the structure of the boat- any rot? You said the spots where the seats used to be are soft. Hopefully, no water got into the structure from any bolt holes.

    Of course, this entire discussion would be much more satisfying with with some pictures!
    Yeah, I got you on the safety part. I'm a father, I'm all about safety.

    I was told the boat was a 16ft, but it's a 1700 steury and I'm guessing the 17 maybe means it's 17 ft? I haven't measured her myself. I'll do that tomorrow.

    Where would one start to rebuild a starter? Will a marine shop do it for me or will I have to ship it off to someone?

    I've actually been pulling up more and more carpet. Wife noticed something I didn't, there was a snake skin laying under some of the carpet. I'm completely afraid of snakes, past experience. Anyways, looking around everything seems to be fiberglass, the holes I speak of are really tiny and it has been left out in the rain a few times, past owner and myself. I also hope there hasn't been any rot below. Floor feels fine though. I trust it.

    I will get some pics tomorrow when it's bright out and I'm doing yard/house work. Until then!

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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    Looks to be just shy of 16 1/2', if this is the right family:
    1979 S1700 RAB

    A regular automotive starter/alternator shop may be able do a rebuild. If not, a new one is available right here at iboats for less than $200. (You should be aware that "boat" is actually an acronym that stands for "Break Out Another Thousand".)
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    Sorry it took so long, hope this helps to those who have asked.

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    Ttt

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    Wow, really...thought pic's would help you guys...guess I was wrong...do I have to become part of the boating clique before I get help around here?

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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    Quote Originally Posted by ne0hisda0ne View Post
    Wow, really...thought pic's would help you guys...guess I was wrong...do I have to become part of the boating clique before I get help around here?
    Well go back and read the responses you have received......

    "A regular automotive starter/alternator shop may be able do a rebuild. If not, a new one is available right here at iboats for less than $200."

    Have you purchased the proper manual?
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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    im not an expert but a 200 Hp outboard on a 16 footer seems like overkill. i would recommend getting the motor running and then remove it and sell it. you will get enough money from the sale to buy a newer, running, less maintenance and hours 75-125 Hp outboard. seeing how you said you were not going to use it for a speed boat and dont really need the extra Hp, all your doing is paying for extra gas, parts cost and so on.

    btw, my 200 Hp 20ft bass boat topped out at 70 mph on my gps, so i beleive your lighter, smaller boat could easily do 75 mph.

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    Default Re: Steury Stinger 1700 with 200hp Mercury Motor

    Looking over your pictures I got maybe bad news for you, thats a 1979-81 model 150 or 175 not a 200hp and am leaning toward 150 as the 175 had a fine tooth flywheel these years. The reason I can tell is: old style heads, plunger choke, idle stablizer box, vertical crankcase intake, no oil injection boss, old style poppit system, old style trim and old style control box. This engine if a 150 will be prop rated around 135-140 hp and a 175 around 150-160hp.
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