Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

duckslayer09

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my shifter works fine to put it in and out of gear but when i take off it slips back into neutral..i have to hold it in gear the whole time im driving. How can I fix this problem? Please, I have no clue how.
 

samo_ott

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

Sounds like your clutch dog is worn in the shifter. Fix it asap as it will only get worse.
 

HighTrim

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

Welcome to iboats. This should help. Good luck.

(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)
(J. Reeves)

This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".

Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.

When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.

The lobes of the dog and gears are precisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are precisely machined with sharp angles!

Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those precisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.

Some boaters have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those precisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

samo_ott

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

In the lower unit on the prop shaft. Do you have a manual?
 

HighTrim

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

"Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog."
 

duckslayer09

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

yea, i see it.. how much do you reckon a clutch dog is?
 

HighTrim

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

What year and model number.?
 

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

"http://www.crowleymarine.com/brp_parts/diagrams/32609.cfm"
 

HighTrim

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Re: Johnson 6 H.P. shifter wont stay in gear

Not a problem , good luck. With a few tools, a manual and this forum, you will have that fixed in no time.
 
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