5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

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"Think what you will. Cornservatives like you who bite your own kind usually don't ackomplish much in the way of political discourse. All movements have people who push for purity. I don't answer to anyone other then the BIG FELLA, so I will continue to engage as I see fit. Sorry it offends you so much."

I'm not "biting my own kind" as much as it is I already knew we differed more than you thought.
I sense your frustration however, certainly no offense taken here and my sincere apologies for being offending you OMR. I appreciate your efforts and input.

"Is there any politician alive today that meets your rigid criteria?"

That's a tough question since I oh so want Osama Bin Laudin dead and a decisive military victory in Iraq/Afganistan.
But because of the socialists in this country and squandered opportunitys I don't see it happening unless by accident. Nor do I see a white knight from the large list running to make it happen. I'd really be for a super hawkish ex-general type really.

As far as ideaology and the direction that I believe in, Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul.
 

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"Think what you will. Cornservatives like you who bite your own kind usually don't ackomplish much in the way of political discourse. All movements have people who push for purity. I don't answer to anyone other then the BIG FELLA, so I will continue to engage as I see fit. Sorry it offends you so much."

I'm not "biting my own kind" as much as it is I already knew we differed more than you thought.
I sense your frustration however, certainly no offense taken here and my sincere apologies for being offending you OMR. I appreciate your efforts and input.

"Is there any politician alive today that meets your rigid criteria?"

That's a tough question since I oh so want Osama Bin Laudin dead and a decisive military victory in Iraq/Afganistan.
But because of the socialists in this country and squandered opportunitys I don't see it happening unless by accident. Nor do I see a white knight from the large list running to make it happen. I'd really be for a super hawkish ex-general type really.

As far as ideaology and the direction that I believe in, Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul.


Kaaa rist........ Everyone want's to hit the lotto or get the hell out, this is going ot take time dude, or a reality your not man enough to face, sorry for that but google the fire bombing's of germany or japan, then just think you get to watch it every second on the new's as we know it today.............:(

Gentlemen in pursuit of our own satisfaction we have ackowledge women and ther opinion far to much, these are men with a attitude and could give a damm less about opinion's and want to win, think about it....:eek:
 

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"Think what you will. Cornservatives like you who bite your own kind usually don't ackomplish much in the way of political discourse. All movements have people who push for purity. I don't answer to anyone other then the BIG FELLA, so I will continue to engage as I see fit. Sorry it offends you so much."

I'm not "biting my own kind" as much as it is I already knew we differed more than you thought.

Then you must be a real skilled mind reader, (I'm not). I can't tell how much you and I differ as I only know what you choose to post here, and that is also all you know about me. Yer posts indicate that you are a very hard right somewhat intollerant idealist that tends to reject anything left of the ideal.

I sense your frustration however, certainly no offense taken here and my sincere apologies for being offending you OMR. I appreciate your efforts and input.

Accepted, I normally don't kick back at the people on the right but just because we dissagree does not inticate "denial" on my part unless my position is totally unsupportable. When I debate people who have a totally illogical unsupportable positions I accuse them of smokin' somethin'. Both yer postions and my positions are supportable. I just feel your positions, (while many times desirable: [IMHO]), are unatainable in the existing society we live in. That is why I do feel GWB knows how to 'govern' or he never would have won reelection in 2004 with the first actual majority since 1992. As a former investment professional I tend to let actual results speak for themselves, (they call that philosophy: "don't fight the tape"). He made the rigid right wing, (like I 'think' you are: Skinny), very uncomfortable; but if they were rational, (as you seem to be) they did not want John Kerry, (who came close enough to really scare rational people on the right), or Fred Flinstone, (Pat Buchanan et al). He made the hard Left uncomfortable, (who never would be comfortable with anyone to the right of Algore or John Kerry n' sometimes Jane Fonda). In fact: the hard left many times shows the same intollerance of the Democrats (who also have to compromise to get elected), that you show Republicans, (Cindy Sheehan comes to mind). That said: he, (GWB), made enough people on both the Left and Right and in the middle sufficiently comfortable that they held their nose and voted for him. That: Skinny, is the definition of sucessfully governing, and how I tend to cornclude that what I believe is a fact: that GWB knows how to govern.

"Is there any politician alive today that meets your rigid criteria?"

That's a tough question since I oh so want Osama Bin Laudin dead and a decisive military victory in Iraq/Afganistan.

I guessed you would have a great deal of trouble with that challange: Skinny. Thanks for trying. Politicians are very irritating people to those of us who live in the real focused world. In order to buy and maintain a boat you need to either inherit a lot of money or focus yer energy to become sucessful at something so ya have the funds to buy and maintain yer boat. Politicians must be general enough yet leaning enough to one side to get ellected. The finished package must compromise to get a big enough tent to win. I tend to let Pols sort themselves out to the point where I support the one that most agrees with my preference, (that has a chance of actually winning; which seems to be the major difference between you and I). I would prefer an imperfect Ronald Reagan to a fatal Jimmy Carter, or an imperfect GWB to a fatal John Kerry. I then do not hammer them from my idealistic point of view once they get there. I hammer the looney left not the people on "my team" even though they may be as far appart as you and I seem to be. I don't argue with your ideals: Skinny, I probably agree with them. I just don't think canabalism serves any purpose other then letting the Left win.

But because of the socialists in this country and squandered opportunitys I don't see it happening unless by accident. Nor do I see a white knight from the large list running to make it happen. I'd really be for a super hawkish ex-general type really.

Trouble is Skinny: George Patton could never win an election, he surely would win a war. You need both: say a Harry Truman.

As far as ideaology and the direction that I believe in, Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul.

Hmmmmm, then we would need to reduce our living standards considerably. The world will not just give us their oil. We need to bring something to the table and islolation would just give us a deflationary depression and a world war for scarce resources. That's my opinion: Skinny, (which I can support). We can just agree to dissagree. BTW: there is NO CHANCE of that type of politician ever winning a presidential election in your or my lifetime. I hope you are content to beoch n' moan from the unhappy sidelines for the rest of yer life. Respectfully, (and I mean it), JR
 

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???.Then you must be a real skilled mind reader, (I'm not)??.. Yer posts indicate that you are a very hard right somewhat intollerant idealist that tends to reject anything left of the ideal??????????? I guessed you would have a great deal of trouble with that challange: Skinny. Thanks for trying????. I hope you are content to beoch n' moan from the unhappy sidelines for the rest of yer life.?

Now be careful with your own ?psychobabble?. Don?t play so offended by me using ?in denial? and you continue on the same way. Maybe I should expected more from someone who would argue the paint off a barn door and start one-sided political threads to do more than poopoo me away with ?we?ll just agree to disagree? and then take a final pop-shot.
Or maybe I shouldn?t and accept that you?ll use the ?overly sensitive card? when debate gets tough.

It takes far less effort for me to ?beoch n' moan? about the Democrats AND the Republicans then your ?beoch n' moanin? about the Democrats, less keystrokes too.
My perceived happiness is off topic but I assure you, political debate is purely sport with me.

?????That is why I do feel GWB knows how to 'govern' or he never would have won reelection in 2004 with the first actual majority since 1992????? I tend to cornclude that what I believe is a fact: that GWB knows how to govern.????? I would prefer an imperfect Ronald Reagon to a fatal Jimmy Carter, or an imperfect GWB to a fatal John Kerry.??????.

Don?t confuse GWB?s two election wins with his ability to govern. When it was people like you and I and our neighbors, certainly the majority, holding their noses at the polls.
The losses at the last midterm elections, a less than 30% approval rating, along with several other blunders you?ve already admitted to are ?actual results?. On one of my posts above you agreed with me more than not. Those things you had issue with had nothing to do with ? actual results?.
Remember, ?don?t fight the tape!?

?The finished package must compromise to get a big enough tent to win. I tend to let Pols sort themselves out to the point where I support the one that most agrees with my preference, (that has a chance of actually winning; which seems to be the major difference between you and I). I then do not hammer them from my idealistic point of view once they get there. I hammer the looney left not the people on "my team" even though they may be as far appart as you and I seem to be. I don't argue with your ideals: Skinny, I probably agree with them. I just don't think canabalism serves any purpose other then letting the Left win.?


If the people wanted compromise McCain would have been voted in.
Again, the Republican wins of the house in the ?90?s and of the Whitehouse in 2000 were not from a compromise. They were because of substantive conservative principals.
The Contract with America and Conservative talk like what was used in GWB?s 2000 election.
I didn?t vote for all these guys to rip apart the Contract with America, grow the government and all I ?hammer? them about.
I haven?t changed my political principals, THEY have, and it is my duty to ?hammer? them when they stab the citizens in the back.

Yes there are several major differences between you and I. Absolutely to the point that I see you as part of the problem. I hammer; you condone, compromise and start one-sided political threads in support of them.
We got to this point in our government because of electing the lesser of two evils and because of compromising principal when it isn?t even necessary.
I?m not so rigid that I won?t compromise but with something like principals I?d rather cut the hypocrisy and dig deeper.
That sir isn?t cannibalism.

??..then we would need to reduce our living standards considerably. The world will not just give us their oil. We need to bring something to the table and isolation would just give us a deflationary depression and a world war for scarce resources. That's my opion: Skinny, (which I can support). We can just agree to dissagree. BTW: there is NO CHANCE of that type of politician ever winning a presidential election in your or my lifetime?.?

Possibly the most self-serving opinion of all. And it speaks so clear of where those compromises in your political principals are cheaply spent.
Our standard of living has had an anchor placed directly on the backs of the middle class for decades because of our foreign policy (an opinion I can support).

IT ISN?T OUR OIL, it?s theirs. They?ve never given it to us and it?s vastly more expensive now. And I?m not even talking about monetarily.
Those that have it in the Middle East hate us, even those that aren?t shooting at us.
If you don?t like the word ?imperialism? then substitute it with ?involvement/doing business/ foreign aid/ bribeing/policeing/babysitting/occupying/fighting/dying/threatening/negotiating?.
Take any of those words OMR, dazzle me with your political savvy, read the ?tape?, and show me where they will work with our enemies in the Middle East. ?Actual results? would be different if we fought them to their surrender, but you accept the political compromise instead.
Anything other than a complete bloodbath till their surrender or total isolation of them by us will result in them ALL shooting at us (everlasting war) AND a loss of their oil anyhow.
Any old measly ?deflationary depression? is a small price to pay for victory and a heck of a lot more CORNservative, practical, and moral then stuffing our enemy?s pockets with cash. Sacrilege I know to an investment broker, but good for America.

And I agree that an old Conservative President probably won?t be elected anytime soon, if ever.
Instead we?ll have 8% voter turn out, a socialist government, absolutely no industrial/manufacturing base, overwhelming taxes and monumental governmental/political induced burdens placed on our children.

If any lesson could be learned here OMR, it would be to think twice before starting one-sided political threads. Sooner or later you will be exposed to the hypocrisy you bring and eventually the sting of its burden on thin skin. (?they call that philosophy?)
 

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I thought someone was high jacking my thread....
But no.........:)
 

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It is our oil....
We freed them!.....
Now if the REFINERS would STOP taking RECORD PROFITS....
I might be able to sleep at night!.....:)
 

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Now be careful with your own “psychobabble”. Don’t play so offended by me using “in denial” and you continue on the same way. Maybe I should expected more from someone who would argue the paint off a barn door and start one-sided political threads to do more than poopoo me away with “we’ll just agree to disagree” and then take a final pop-shot.
Or maybe I shouldn’t and accept that you’ll use the “overly sensitive card” when debate gets tough.

Is it "overly sensitive" to call BS to yer "in denial" lable?

It takes far less effort for me to “beoch n' moan” about the Democrats AND the Republicans then your “beoch n' moanin” about the Democrats, less keystrokes too.
My perceived happiness is off topic but I assure you, political debate is purely sport with me.

Me too Skinny, I get my "happiness" from things in my own life I can corntrol as I suspect you do too. Political outcomes are not within my corntrol.

Don’t confuse GWB’s two election wins with his ability to govern. When it was people like you and I and our neighbors, certainly the majority, holding their noses at the polls.

You can ignore the first actual popular win by a Presindent since 1988 if you choose, (I choose not to). Since I did not ignore the 2004 win I have the privledge of intrepreting the win as having an ability to govern, (since he cut taxes as promised, and changed education, which was what the governed seemed to want, IMHO). As I said: we can choose to disagree with each other about supportable positions without calling each other names, (BTW: calling me cornfused is an acceptable debate tactic, IMHO).

The losses at the last midterm elections, a less than 30% approval rating, along with several other blunders you’ve already admitted to are “actual results”. On one of my posts above you agreed with me more than not. Those things you had issue with had nothing to do with “ actual results”.
Remember, “don’t fight the tape!”

The 2004 win was what I cornsider actual results. You seem to place much more value on what the media creates for all us pawns. The media hates Bush, and in a democracy that does not like war it is relatively easy to hammer a war time president fighting a necessary war to low approval levels, (I guess ya don't know or understand that corncept). Katrina could have happened under Clinton, and the MSM would have never pounded him that way. They, (the MSM), never pounds Democrats or Clinton would have never been elected with the rape charge in his past. Is GWB incompetent? NO; New Orleans was an accident waiting to happen since the French built it. The locals totally are at fault. Rep Jefferson finally got indicted, and the Mayor was re elected after leaving school busses to flood. New Orleans was the fault of those living in New Orleans who constantly re elect incompetent crooked pols that take bribes and fix nothing, not George Bush. Who actually wants the nanny Federal government to wipe yer arse for ya cause ya can't do it yerself as yer a victim?????? Jimmy Carter is an example of incompetence. That said the MSM echos incompetent et al and drives attitudes of our highly educated population that does not know who the Vice President is more negative. Please cornsider Harry Truman, one of our better Presidents, and his efforts produced South Korea, (which seems to be a bit sucessfull from my perspective). Hindsight is 20-20 and Mr. Bush will get much better marks with the passage of time.

If the people wanted compromise McCain would have been voted in.

Disagree with this overly simplistic observation.

Again, the Republican wins of the house in the ‘90’s and of the Whitehouse in 2000 were not from a compromise. They were because of substantive conservative principals.

The house win in 1994 was due to cornservative principals, the 2000 win was due to Clinton fatigue, and the fact that Algore is nuts and enough could see that to give Mr. Bush the win.

The Contract with America and Conservative talk like what was used in GWB’s 2000 election.
I didn’t vote for all these guys to rip apart the Contract with America, grow the government and all I “hammer” them about.
I haven’t changed my political principals, THEY have, and it is my duty to “hammer” them when they stab the citizens in the back.

Skinny: Most Americans want big nanny government. GWB gave 'em what they want with market incentives, so it was not as foolish as the Democrats' plan was. That's governing: Skinny; IMHO, an opinion you don't share: so be it!

Yes there are several major differences between you and I. Absolutely to the point that I see you as part of the problem.

I guess you think I didn't get that. I see rigid uncompromising right wingers who shoot their own first as part of the problem as well: Skinny.

I hammer; you condone, compromise and start one-sided political threads in support of them.
We got to this point in our government because of electing the lesser of two evils and because of compromising principal when it isn’t even necessary.
I’m not so rigid that I won’t compromise but with something like principals I’d rather cut the hypocrisy and dig deeper.
That sir isn’t cannibalism.

We again disagree: Skinny. You could only name Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan as the only current Pols, (and Buchanan is hardly a current Pol), you could support. Those two are loosers, (in the political sense): Skinny. Your political discourse is in orbit, (right retrograde). You can only "beoch n' moan" about those who are now in power against the Democrats n' Libs n' support fringe candidates that if you actually analysed their positions are far worse then the pols who get yer fire today. N' Skinny those two ARE LOOSERS. Do you always support loosers so you can beoch n' moan at the winers?

Possibly the most self-serving opinion of all. And it speaks so clear of where those compromises in your political principals are cheaply spent.

I guess if I supported total loosers that would never get ellected under any circumstances I'd get yer approval? I'm proud not to have yer approval Skinny!!

Our standard of living has had an anchor placed directly on the backs of the middle class for decades because of our foreign policy (an opinion I can support).

Disagree: foreign policy has very little to do with our success. The hard working inventive Americans who live here: both rich and poor are the reason for our success.

IT ISN”T OUR OIL, it’s theirs. They’ve never given it to us and it’s vastly more expensive now. And I’m not even talking about monetarily.
Those that have it in the Middle East hate us, even those that aren’t shooting at us.
If you don’t like the word “imperialism” then substitute it with “involvement/doing business/ foreign aid/ bribeing/policeing/babysitting/occupying/fighting/dying/threatening/negotiating”.
Take any of those words OMR, dazzle me with your political savvy, read the “tape”, and show me where they will work with our enemies in the Middle East. “Actual results” would be different if we fought them to their surrender, but you accept the political compromise instead.
Anything other than a complete bloodbath till their surrender or total isolation of them by us will result in them ALL shooting at us (everlasting war) AND a loss of their oil anyhow.
Any old measly “deflationary depression” is a small price to pay for victory and a heck of a lot more CORNservative, practical, and moral then stuffing our enemy’s pockets with cash. Sacrilege I know to an investment broker, but good for America.

Aparently you wish for total war, which I would admitadly rather avoid, (but: I have admitted may be the end result of the Democrats' weakness on display). Again: I very proud that you don't approve of my politics: Skinny.

And I agree that an old Conservative President probably won’t be elected anytime soon, if ever.

Hmmmm, ya like to be on the loosing team Skinny?

Instead we’ll have 8% voter turn out, a socialist government, absolutely no industrial/manufacturing base, overwhelming taxes and monumental governmental/political induced burdens placed on our children.

If any lesson could be learned here OMR, it would be to think twice before starting one-sided political threads. Sooner or later you will be exposed to the hypocrisy you bring and eventually the sting of its burden on thin skin. (“they call that philosophy”)

Skinny: I will start any "one sided political thread" I want to any time I see fit, (yer not my momma). There are others who probably don't like the fact I post here on iboats either. If iboats doesn't want the thread, they can zap it. If you don't like it, (I'm really the bigest problem to politics in America today, a hypocrite, cornfused and in denial in your eyes as you've stated), don't read or respond to it. If you do, and you draw my fire: then so be it. I don't think my skin is that thin: but: to each his own. Respectfully JR ps: You just seem to me to be one of those back bench "beoch birds" on the sidelines that has a set of rigid unattainable ideals that you strive to force down the throats of others. If you ever got Ron Paul ellected you would likely be the first to cut his heart out when you saw the actual cornsequences of supporting the loons on the fringe.
 

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?If any lesson could be learned here OMR, it would be to think twice before starting one-sided political threads. Sooner or later you will be exposed to the hypocrisy you bring and eventually the sting of its burden on thin skin.?

OMR you completely misunderstand. I don?t care that you participate here and it isn?t my job to say how you do it.

When you cry foul for one simple ?in denial? statement in a rough and tumble one-sided political thread that YOU start and continue with a barrage of your own statements used the same way, that is hypocrisy.
It?s hypocritical to act above it all, spew contempt then finish with name-calling.

Now bear with me here, I?m not telling you this because I?m offended or hurt or even crying foul. But I do so ever love to point out hypocrisy.

It?s fine and dandy you choose to compromise conservative values for larger government, open borders, borrow and spend economics, and international intervention.
But to fanatically stand on a soapbox, call the candidate that embraces these things a conservative and yourself a conservative is hypocritical.
You said, ?Most Americans want big nanny government.? Myself I don?t believe that statement, but if you really did it sounds like you?ve already surrendered, so compromise it all!

Now take it a bit further now, like you did.
Take a couple of conservatives ?looneys? like Buchanan or Ron Paul that throughout the decades are consistently principled and honest enough to maintain integrity even when it isn?t popular enough to win.
But you call yourself a conservative and are stuck on something about ?biting your own kind?. OMR how many times can you use ?looser? caps and all in one rant and not be a hypocrite? Sadly, although not surprising, the implication is that you?ll compromise integrity as well.
Surely you?re in hog heaven with the many choices of ?electable? Republicrats that are eager to surrender conservatism this go round.

Again I sense your frustration. Strange behavior you?re STUCK on thinking I should be a good little Republican lest I criticize them. Better that I submit to the hypocrisy and join your club.

Hypocrisy has been my debate. Certainly most men have it, so do I.
But it?s foolish to exhibit an over abundance of it and start one-sided political topics.

BTW, I really enjoy your sig, it makes me smile. Hypocrites aren't that rare.
 

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What are you two going on about with all this 'Cornservative getting elected business in 2008'?.......
The stage is set for the return of Al Gore.......;)
My prediction is that Al Gore will win the presidency in 2008.....:)
 

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“If any lesson could be learned here OMR, it would be to think twice before starting one-sided political threads. Sooner or later you will be exposed to the hypocrisy you bring and eventually the sting of its burden on thin skin.”

OMR you completely misunderstand. I don’t care that you participate here and it isn’t my job to say how you do it.

Skinny, how do you know what I do or what I don't understand? You have absolutely no idea!!!

When you cry foul for one simple ”in denial” statement in a rough and tumble one-sided political thread that YOU start and continue with a barrage of your own statements used the same way, that is hypocrisy.

Skinny, how do you know if another poster on the internet is "in denial"? You only know what I post here and you sure a he!! don't know me personnally or well enough to make any psychiatric evaluation of me or any other internet poster even if you have a PHD in Psychiatry. If I reject your inapropriate label I have "thin skin"? I will reject dim wit totally inappropriate labels any time someone hangs them on me, n' I don't cornsider that to be thin skin. That said: think what you want. Not only do you do a very poor job of psychiatric evaluation you apparently don't know what the word "hyprocrisy" means. I reject that label as well. I disagree with your rigid narrow minded words about politics and that is the extent of our dissagreement. You seem to want to make this real personal and hang negative characterisations about me that have absolutely no basis in fact: YOU DON"T KNOW ME: SKINNY.


It’s hypocritical to act above it all, spew contempt then finish with name-calling.

Now bear with me here, I’m not telling you this because I’m offended or hurt or even crying foul. But I do so ever love to point out hypocrisy.

Skinny: you need to look up the word: HYPOCRISY. You are wrong.

It’s fine and dandy you choose to compromise conservative values for larger government, open borders, borrow and spend economics, and international intervention.

I well do what I see fit Skinny. You are not my momma. I reject your characterisations of my positions. Speak for yourself you do not speak for me.

But to fanatically stand on a soapbox, call the candidate that embraces these things a conservative and yourself a conservative is hypocritical.

I doubt anyone to the left of David Duke is a conservative in yer eyes. Some people orbit politics so far out on the fringe that their whole world looks upside down. You can define things the way you want Skinny, that is yer choice. I'm not a "fanatic", n' just because I reject the many negative labels you hurl at me doesn't make my "skin thin" either. When someone who escalates a political debate to a personal level, like you have done here: I stand my ground. I we were face to face we could sort this out real quick.

You said, “Most Americans want big nanny government.” Myself I don’t believe that statement, but if you really did it sounds like you’ve already surrendered, so compromise it all!

In yer far right political orbit, you might think most people actually agree with you. If that were the case: David Duke would be President. Since both major political parties grow the government I cornclude that most Americans want big nanny government. You are free to reach any cornclusion you want to from your orbit: Skinny. We just simply dissagree.

Now take it a bit further now, like you did.
Take a couple of conservatives “looneys” like Buchanan or Ron Paul that throughout the decades are consistently principled and honest enough to maintain integrity even when it isn’t popular enough to win.

I guess that is a way to rationalise political loosers: Skinny. I prefer to back winners, which in your eyes is a big sell out. Sorry we just don't agree, but that is life.

But you call yourself a conservative and are stuck on something about “biting your own kind”.

Yer right is was wrong to associate with you in any way shape or form: I'm not "your own kind", you and I are very far apart.

OMR how many times can you use “looser” caps and all in one rant and not be a hypocrite?

Look up the work hypocrite: Skinny. You clearly do not know what the word means. In my opionon Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul are political loosers in presidential politics. Mr Buchanan is not President is he? Do you think Mr Paul is our next President?

Sadly, although not surprising, the implication is that you’ll compromise integrity as well.

You don't know anything about my integrity. Stick it where the sun does not shine.

Surely you’re in hog heaven with the many choices of “electable” Republicrats that are eager to surrender conservatism this go round.

I like the selection of Republican candidates. They are to the left of David Duke, so I can see yer displeasure with all but Dr. Paul.

Again I sense your frustration.

You are very bad a reading my mind, I am not frustrated at all. Look in the mirror, that is what you must be sensing.

Strange behavior you’re STUCK on thinking I should be a good little Republican lest I criticize them. Better that I submit to the hypocrisy and join your club.

I don't want you in any club I belong to: Skinny. Please quit making things up.

Hypocrisy has been my debate. Certainly most men have it, so do I.
But it’s foolish to exhibit an over abundance of it and start one-sided political topics.

I don't think I'm foolish, but you are free to your own opionion. I will start threads as I see fit. You are not my momma.


BTW, I really enjoy your sig, it makes me smile. Hypocrites aren't that rare.

I don't see that further discourse with you is productive. I would prefer you wait to call me names and belittle me in person, (if we get the chance sometime), so the matter can be sorted out between us promptly. If I have called you names or mischaracterised your positions: I appologise. Respectfully JR
 

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Thanks for the exercise and exchange OMR.

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

Thanks for the exercise and exchange OMR.

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Your welcome Skinny. I enjoy intellectual debates: ON THE MERITS with anyone here on iboats: right left or in the middle, as I generally learn from them and it effects my thinking in a positive way. I do not enjoy unfounded personal insults directed at me, ("in denial, thin skin, hypocrite, fanatic, questions about my integrity, et al"). It makes me mad, (and I reject the "thin skin" label as I don't know anybody who appreciates personal attacks from someone who does not know them), and I'm not here on iboats to get mad at you or anyone. Thanks for the debate. JR
 

OldMercsRule

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

That's funny right there . . . :p :D

I guess you like to get personal attacks, eh QC?? I do not, and I deal with them straight up, so I guess I have thin skin and am a hypocrite by saying I don't feel I do have thin skin.
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"


Murky has thin skin!.....
Murky has thin skin!......:p
 

QC

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

Merc, Merc . . . Relax. It's simply funny . . . Nothing more, nothing less. I laugh at myself when I am Oxymoronic.

I too have had a run in with Skinny, but I fingered out he is OK, and is one of the more principled guys on here.
 

stevieray

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

Yeah, JR - look on the bright side...at least you didn't get called gay, gayer & gayest (see the beer thread)! :D :D :p
 

OldMercsRule

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

Yes Bro Haut I will conceed that: compared to you I have relatively thin skin.

You usually do get personal in yer debate style with others, (pointing out my 'sole brain cell' n' my nick name of 'Murky' comes ta mind: Bro), and therefore: you should certianly expect others to hammer ya back, which they have.

I make an effort to debate the merits of what other posters actually state, and once the illogic of a position has been exposed I may accuse the other party of smokin' something or needing better information at the Library. I rarely attack someone further then that and Skinny's barbs at me just struck me wrong.

I agree with QC that he, (Skinny), is very sharp intellectually and his posts are generally well put, and I don't think he has attacked me in the past, that I know of. JR
 

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

LMAO @ stevie
 

stevieray

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Re: 5/29 Article by Thomas Sowell "A War of Words"

All in good fun, QC :p ...now I'm going for a boat ride
 
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