the Democrats are in charge

[jtexas]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

But when the drug companies stop making a big profit, they will stop spending big dollars on R&D...

gouging senior citizens...is how you want drug R&D funded?

curious...is this the only corporate hand-out you favor, or are there others?

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

The final word is that the drug companies, (PHRMA) will always make profit.......
You can take that to the bank.....

NIce post Haunt after all this is america, I really need to ask this question, the so called liberal's in this forum, are you really liberal's or anarchists aka mindless objection's. One can be of one mind in matter's of policy and find a resolution, kinda a united stand working toward's a goal but anarchists there is no resolution just chaos

............ sound familar?

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

The final word is that the drug companies, (PHRMA) will always make profit.......
You can take that to the bank.....

NIce post Haunt after all this is america, I really need to ask this question, the so called liberal's in this forum, are you really liberal's or anarchists aka mindless objection's. One can be of one mind in matter's of policy and find a resolution, kinda a united stand working toward's a goal but anarchists there is no resolution just chaos

............ sound familar?

NOPE!
Anyone who cannot see the benefit of the government negotiating better drug prices that will be paid for with your tax dollars is a MORON!
Any more stupid questions?
How is that for plain language?...........JK

 

[POINTER94]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

I would like to have Lil' Nancy negotiate the price of my next tuna steak. Slaves to the kitchen!! Sweet....

I would love to see one piece of legislation authored by GW Bush that benefitted any oil company and directly lined his pockets as much.

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

The final word is that the drug companies, (PHRMA) will always make profit.......
You can take that to the bank.....

NIce post Haunt after all this is america, I really need to ask this question, the so called liberal's in this forum, are you really liberal's or anarchists aka mindless objection's. One can be of one mind in matter's of policy and find a resolution, kinda a united stand working toward's a goal but anarchists there is no resolution just chaos

............ sound familar?

NOPE!
Anyone who cannot see the benefit of the government negotiating better drug prices that will be paid for with your tax dollars is a MORON!
Any more stupid questions?
How is that for plain language?...........JK

Bro Haut, Come on now, it isn't just the SNOTTY CONDECENDING SOCIALISTS that have brains and valid input, so you don't need to be so insulting. The government picking winners and losers has never worked in the history of mankind, if you can cite me a historical example: do so, (and back it up). Capitalism sorts out winners and losers very efficiently, and as has already been stated here. If the government forced one of the winners to give away their sucessful drug the whole system will be strained. Less new drugs, eventual bailout, the list goes on and on: just look at history. Quit being so full of yourself and have some polite discourse. Respectfully JR

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

The final word is that the drug companies, (PHRMA) will always make profit.......
You can take that to the bank.....

NIce post Haunt after all this is america, I really need to ask this question, the so called liberal's in this forum, are you really liberal's or anarchists aka mindless objection's. One can be of one mind in matter's of policy and find a resolution, kinda a united stand working toward's a goal but anarchists there is no resolution just chaos

............ sound familar?

NOPE!
Anyone who cannot see the benefit of the government negotiating better drug prices that will be paid for with your tax dollars is a MORON!
Any more stupid questions?
How is that for plain language?...........JK

Bro Haut, Come on now, it isn't just the SNOTTY CONDECENDING SOCIALISTS that have brains and valid input, so you don't need to be so insulting. The government picking winners and losers has never worked in the history of mankind, if you can cite me a historical example: do so, (and back it up). Capitalism sorts out winners and losers very efficiently, and as has already been stated here. If the government forced one of the winners to give away their sucessful drug the whole system will be strained. Less new drugs, eventual bailout, the list goes on and on: just look at history. Quit being so full of yourself and have some polite discourse. Respectfully JR

I'm truly sorry that my last post applies to you...:'(
You have awfully thin skin for a conservative....
If you truly believe what you just posted, I feel sad for you.......:%

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Hey Bro Haut, I didn't know you were pointing it at me, thought you were hamerin' Tail Gunner. You can be as nasty as you like, (my skin is thick, and I am used to nasty Libs up here where you and I reside; and you know I think capitalism functions fairly good and socialism does not: so fire away). It just seems a shame, as you are obviously a very smart and articulate individual, and these sparing matches are a lot of fun if one keeps their comments less personal. Just a thought. Do as you like, I'm good either way. JR

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

It was a blanket statement.....
I wasn't asking for you to sign up, but you volunteered....

 

[treedancer]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Quote pointer94
I would love to see one piece of legislation authored by GW Bush that benefitted any oil company and directly lined his pockets as much.

Your right pointer can’t prove anything; if we could we would have the spectacle of watching President Bush going thru for the Democrats, what the Republicans gleefully put president Clinton thru. That being said there is a bit of circumstantial evidence that I find rather interesting.

In 1985,the current Presidents Co. reported a net loss of $1,6 million, the only thing he had was the name to fall back on and fall he did. Inter Harken Oil and Gas, stage left.

Harken Oil and Gas, was looking to buy up troubled oil companies. After finding Spectrum, Harken's executives saw a bonus in their target's CEO. His first name was George and the last name was Bush, HHhhMmm what a coincidence that is the Name of the sitting vice President Of the United States, perfect fit.

I think I’ll speed this up a bit, that’s all old history the only reason I put it in is to show where the Harkin stock came into the picture. Bush placed his shares in Harken in a blind trust when he stepped down as a director. The company said it was unaware whether he was still a shareholder.

Inter Global Energy Development stage right, a subsidiary of Harken Energy, which acquired Spectrum Energy, President Bush's oil business in 1985. I think President Bush has been making deals with the governments of Peru and Colombia. The US gives foreign aid in one form or another to these countries and, in exchange, these countries are giving oil rights to Harken Energy through Global Energy Development.

Of course we will never know because he has a ….ahem blind trust doesn’t he..as does Vice President Cheney, I believe ha has a little stock in a company called Halliburton. And I'm sure we're all as pleased as can be that the company is going so well for him, thanks to all the no-bid defense contracts they've been getting. He's bound to have a peach of a retirement.

But you’re right Pointer he has covered his tracks rather well, going to be rather hard to prove that he has benefited and lined his pockets.

O pointer as an aside, it seems that your demeanor has changed a bit from the last year. Lasts year or possibly a bit more you seemed to be fitting the President for the robes of Sainthood now it seems to be ….O ya just prove it.8)

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

I see that this is still a sensative issue. While I'm not going to post any rants in one direction or the other the only thing I can say is that I hope that whoever is in charge of this country keeps the country in mind and not their own political ideologies.

 

[POINTER94]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Treedancer,

1, Cheney has no stock in Haliburton. He divested himself of it prior to his taking office. He pledged it to charity. This is a matter of public record. You can find it. It was everywhere before he became VP. I am sure he did this due to the failed conspiracy theories floating around, and to protect himself against nutcase conspiracy allegations. I guess some will believe anything. I fail to understand where he figures in as an example here in any way.

2. I must have missed where in your post the part addressing my direct question identifing specific legislation that benefitted GW directly while he has been in office. Your post is ripe with inuendo and conspiracy theories, and short on anything approaching fact. I think, I believe, he might have, someone tipped a waiter at a taco stand in Peru more than 15%. You got bupkis. Your post makes for good reading in a coffee shop in Seatle but hey, wheres the beef?


Of course we will never know because he has a ….ahem blind trust doesn’t he..as does Vice President Cheney, I believe ha has a little stock in a company called Halliburton. And I'm sure we're all as pleased as can be that the company is going so well for him, thanks to all the no-bid defense contracts they've been getting. He's bound to have a peach of a retirement.

Here is Cheney's stock..

Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) asserts that Cheney's options -- worth $241,498 a year ago -- are now valued at more than $8 million. The former CEO of the oil and gas services juggernaut, Cheney has pledged to give proceeds to charity.




I just love this one, it is just precious.

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Hey Pointer, That's a Bull's EYE!! Conservatives do find that the 'truth' does set them free. Libs should stick to mind readin' as it is much harder to directly refute, in the way you just did. SLAM DUNK! JR

 

[POINTER94]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Hey how about some kool-aid? I'm buying if Lil' Nancy does what VP Cheney did, donate her stock shares to Charity. Of course it is always easier to get money from Monks who have taken a vow of poverty.

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=261

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Hey how about some kool-aid?

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=261

MMMMMMMMMMM, Gooooooooood

 

[Plainsman]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

With the dems in charge, this might be needed

 

[OldMercsRule]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

With the dems in charge, this might be needed

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[QC]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Haliburton contract info:

"It is certainly true that during a two year period Halliburton’s revenue from Defense Department contracts doubled. However, that increase in revenue occurred from 1998 to 2000 - during the Clinton administration."

"Regarding the Iraq contracts, Halliburton was accused by Democrats of receiving special "no-bid" contracts because of Cheney’s influence. One advertisement by the Democrats charged, "Bush gave contracts to Halliburton instead of fighting corporate corruption."

FactCheck.org an organization which ascertains the validity of political campaign advertisements researched this accusation. According to FactCheck, "The Bush administration is doing a fair amount to fight corporate corruption, convicting or indicting executives of Enron, Arthur Andersen, Tyco International, Worldcom, Adelphia Communications Corporation, Credit Suisse First Boston, HealthSouth Corporation and others, including Martha Stewart. The Department of Justice says it has brought charges against 20 executives of Enron alone, and its Corporate Fraud Task Force says it has won convictions of more than 250 persons to date. Bush also signed the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation in 2002, imposing stringent new accounting rules in the wake of the Arthur Andersen scandal."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15426

Next corporation that someone feels the need to slander?

 

[treedancer]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Two years of fun and frolic on dockside. 8)

 

[Plainsman]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

LOL@tree 8)8)

 

[POINTER94]

Re: the Democrats are in charge

Please grab a teethguard, helmet and chest protector as you enter the DC... 8)