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  • 1965 Starcraft Starchief

    Hello,

    New here. Just purchased this 1965 Aluminum 18' Starcraft Starchief with hopes to restore or remodel into a fishing boat. It is a cuddy with a 110 hp GM and Mercruiser drive. Not sure of engine/drive condition, hull is very good, transom seems solid, interior needs redone. No sure whether to restore or remodel-remove cuddy, overhaul, repower or convert to outboard. Any thoughts, ideas, comments or advice are appreciated.

    Thanks,
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  • #2
    Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

    Well hey Rick, welcome to iboats and the Starcraft brotherhood!

    I think to answer your questions we'd need to know what you intend to do with this new/old boat eh?

    Cruising, fishing, kids, skiing, big water, skinny water....
    1983 26' Starcraft Sportfisherman 261V Rebuild
    1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild
    1984 16.5' Sea Nymph Ski Sport Rebuild
    1980 16' Sea Nymph SS 165 Rebuild (swapped)
    1968 15' Starcraft Jet Star Rebuild (sold)
    1970's 12' Starcraft Sea Scamp
    Starcraft Rebuilds and Restorations

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    • #3
      Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

      My main thing is fish but still all around family stuff, mainly reservoir, big lake.

      Thanks

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      • #4
        Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

        Nice boat! I think that model looks cool and ugly all at the same time. You can do whatever you want to do to it cause it's all been done before.

        There is a lot of reading that can be done on this site.

        Welcome and keep us posted.
        Dave P.
        1979 22' Starcraft Supersport V5
        w/ 1985 Evinrude 140 & 1979 Evinrude 9.9

        My original thread about my boat:
        http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=416445
        My restoration thread:
        http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=427003

        1995 FourWinns Freedom 3.0 I/O.

        1995 14' SeaFarer LW
        Sold....http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=543525

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        • #5
          Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

          Originally posted by djpeters View Post
          I think that model looks cool and ugly all at the same time. You can do whatever you want to do to it cause it's all been done before.
          Yup, I'm with dj on that ^^^.

          Hmmmm, fishing and family stuff you say?

          My ultra loyal Starcraft buddies will hate me but....

          I'd cut that top right off.

          That cabin is in the way of everything I think.
          1983 26' Starcraft Sportfisherman 261V Rebuild
          1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild
          1984 16.5' Sea Nymph Ski Sport Rebuild
          1980 16' Sea Nymph SS 165 Rebuild (swapped)
          1968 15' Starcraft Jet Star Rebuild (sold)
          1970's 12' Starcraft Sea Scamp
          Starcraft Rebuilds and Restorations

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          • #6
            Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

            That was more or less my original plan, but now am concerned with destroying something original.

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            • #8
              Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

              Welcome, and a good looking rig you got yourself there. To chop or not to chop, that is the question. Personally I like to have a cabin. Great place to store stuff and keep dry in the event of rain. I spend a lot of time on Lk Huron trolling and many time I have not beat the rainstorms that pop up resulting in a lot of wet gear. Now that I have a Chieftan it is more practical for us as now there is the cabin for the grandkids to set in and play games or take a nap while we are out. Also with a cabin depending on where you are you can do an overnighter in the boat. Seems now a days most manufacturers have done away with the aluminum cuddys going with open boats and they will become a rare commodity. Good luck in your decision.
              My Chieftain Project 1972 restoration

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              • #9
                Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                Don't chop the top! That is a cool old cuddy. Of course Jas failed to tell you about the curse of cutting up a Starcaft.

                OK personally I would leave the top on. It's your boat though, if you want to cut the top go ahead. I'll close my eyes. We'll still be buds.

                Don

                ps where do you hail from Rick?
                18' Starcraft; 1971 Offshore V ; Proud member of the Starmada since Jan 2010 (Starmada phrase coined by ozenine)

                Autism Speaks, It's time we listen.
                Autism affects 1 in 70 boys.
                MY Resto; 18' Offshore
                Resto of a 12' Sea Scamp circa 1967 (Zach's boat)
                67' 14' Sea Nymph-Big Water
                Johnson CD-12, 1955 5-1/2 horse

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                • #10
                  Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                  Land of big water Nebraska. I will probably not chop the top, cause once I do I can't go back. Ok so what do I do with the engine/drive? overhaul? repower? convert to outboard?

                  Thanks forthe input.

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                  • #11
                    Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                    The Sunchief would be a great overnighter... Although topless may be a better fishing rig, I certainly support NOT removing the cabin.

                    A 2nd Starcraft, dedicated to fishing, would be a great addition after the Sunchief is done

                    If the motor & outdrive are in good running order, or are salvageable, you're already ahead by not having the OMC combo.

                    Conversion to OB, although possible, would be very invovled and unless you already have the motor, access to welding & fab equipment, plus a good source of aluminum, costly.

                    Read thru the SC resto's listed in Jas' signature line, Magnumdeke is currently doing an OB conversion (w/ an OB pod), and doing it quite well.

                    Great looking rig though. When you get the time, the SC crowd is pix junkies........
                    60 Glastron FireFlite 63 SC Jet:Bedliner SURVIVOR Fit 2B Paddled 57 Duracraft
                    Money spent @Boat Restoration should be measured in Smiles & Pride
                    Majic sigpic 3/2004~12/2011

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                    • #12
                      Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                      Originally posted by Rick Cheloha View Post
                      Land of big water Nebraska. I will probably not chop the top, cause once I do I can't go back. Ok so what do I do with the engine/drive? overhaul? repower? convert to outboard?

                      Thanks forthe input.
                      My two cents since you asked: See if the original power train is serviceable, if so the fix it up and go. If not look for a fiberglass rotted donar boat with a minimum 3.0 liter. Better would be a 6 cylinder 165 mercruiser. No OMC, or the white outdrives. You can't get parts for OMC outdrives anymore. A 4.3 liter would be a sweet option too.

                      Nebraska and big water hmmmm. OK. I welcome the Nebraska Cornhuskers to the Big Ten anyway.

                      Good luck.
                      Don
                      18' Starcraft; 1971 Offshore V ; Proud member of the Starmada since Jan 2010 (Starmada phrase coined by ozenine)

                      Autism Speaks, It's time we listen.
                      Autism affects 1 in 70 boys.
                      MY Resto; 18' Offshore
                      Resto of a 12' Sea Scamp circa 1967 (Zach's boat)
                      67' 14' Sea Nymph-Big Water
                      Johnson CD-12, 1955 5-1/2 horse

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                      • #13
                        Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                        This original outdrive is white, but says mercruiser my research leads me to believe it is a 1Aez Shift. Are those usable,can you find parts? And I already have a 84 16' lund for fishing, so I guess the top stays.

                        Thanks,

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                        • #14
                          Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                          Nice looking boat, welcome to the forum...if you are willing to do enough reading alot of ideas are discussed on here. I would be hard pressed to cut that cabin off myself....however, what about making it smaller? I have the Islander model which has the smaller cuddy and more fishing room, fits the bill to storage problems and fishing room. Wonder what that would look like with a shorter cabin? An extra two feet of fishing space can make a hugh difference. Just some food for thought...........

                          Airshot

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                          • #15
                            Re: 1965 Starcraft Sunchief

                            This thread may prove an interesting read @ your 1A Ez drive:
                            1966 Mercruiser 110 - 1AEZ - options


                            Sounds like in some areas (Australia) parts are hard to come by, but stateside, it appears parts are available, or were when that thread was started.

                            There do seem to be some NLA & in stock parts listed here for the 1963-1966 110 GM I-4, and here for the 1A Ez drive. Iboats.com may also carry parts for either, possibly a manual too. You will definately want a service manual for both drive & motor, no matter what combination you use.

                            For me it would be a toss up, if I needed to do a pretty complete tear-down to bare hull, make some improvements/changes to the boat's setup/layout, and before it started to hold up progress, I could find a decent donor boat priced right w/ a 'better', newer running driveline, I'd probably swap it during the torn down stage. Even if the motor & drive are currently in operating condition. It's still a 45+ yr old setup, and eventually parts are likely to be hard to find for the drive. And you're likely not going to be unsatisfied in a larger re-power motor that is also not 45+yrs old.

                            If it's running, and you can find a different outdrive that will mate up to your current motor, that would be my 2nd choice. Selling an operable outdated drive can be profitable, as someone else may want or need a parts drive for their project. Jas did quite well on his OMC drive & motor sale and swap to the 4.3L motor & mercruiser drive from Thumper.

                            If it's running & budget constraints prevent a swap or there doesn't seem to be a market to support the motor/outdrive sale, then run what you've got is always an option.

                            So, you've been holding out on us about the Lund.... hmmm

                            Cool, then you're already an MBS sufferer............ Welcome to the next level of Starcraft ownership......
                            60 Glastron FireFlite 63 SC Jet:Bedliner SURVIVOR Fit 2B Paddled 57 Duracraft
                            Money spent @Boat Restoration should be measured in Smiles & Pride
                            Majic sigpic 3/2004~12/2011

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