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  • 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

    I'm on my way this weekend to possibly purchase this boat. I cannot find anywhere the value of this vessel. Any guesses would help out.

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  • #2
    Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

    Wow. Didn't know they made a wards cuddy. Cool! Where are you located?
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    • #3
      Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

      Originally posted by CBGale2 View Post
      Wow. Didn't know they made a wards cuddy. Cool! Where are you located?
      I'm in the Midwest. How much should I offer on this boat?

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      • #4
        Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

        What is the owner asking? If the motor checks out and the boat floats, I'd say it's probably worth about $1000. This is assuming that the motor has good compression and the lower unit is in working condition.

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        • #5
          Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

          Originally posted by Ross72 View Post
          What is the owner asking? If the motor checks out and the boat floats, I'd say it's probably worth about $1000. This is assuming that the motor has good compression and the lower unit is in working condition.
          He's asking $2400 and says everything works great.

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          • #6
            Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

            IMHO---If the boat checks out ,very good, and is clean ready to use. OK the price where you are is a bit high,here on the west coast it would be a steal . But it has to bo in very very good condition . Suggest you offer him a lower figure $1500. He can always say no and you can work your way up if you wish. The boat is 50 years old and the motor looks to be mabey in the 70s but I may be wrong. Great boat and you would be happy with it.

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            • #7
              Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

              Yah, a Wards labeled Chief, huh! I've only seen 12 - 14 foot row boats with the Wards label. Interesting.

              Yah, $2400 seems a little pricey. Though, I am a huge cheepo. I'd say that the majority of your dollar is going to be riding on that OB. If everything is in tip top shape there then you are in business and that price becomes much more reasonable.

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              • #8
                Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                I'd have to know a little more to give a more educated answer. As mentioned, the majority of the value is in the motor. So it would be good to know year, horsepower, and whether it has power tilt 'n trim. The bare hull on a trailer would only be worth like $750. The motor could be an $800-$1500+ motor depending on what it is.
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                • #9
                  Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                  Originally posted by ezmobee View Post
                  I'd have to know a little more to give a more educated answer. As mentioned, the majority of the value is in the motor. So it would be good to know year, horsepower, and whether it has power tilt 'n trim. The bare hull on a trailer would only be worth like $750. The motor could be an $800-$1500+ motor depending on what it is.
                  Thank you, great feedback.

                  The motor is a 1980-81 85 hp Johnson out board tilt and trim (New tilt elec motor 2009).

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                  • #10
                    Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                    Originally posted by jasoutside View Post
                    Yah, a Wards labeled Chief, huh! I've only seen 12 - 14 foot row boats with the Wards label. Interesting.

                    Yah, $2400 seems a little pricey. Though, I am a huge cheepo. I'd say that the majority of your dollar is going to be riding on that OB. If everything is in tip top shape there then you are in business and that price becomes much more reasonable.

                    Have fun!
                    This is labeled as a Wards Sea King. Through my research I uncovered the manufacturer is actually Starcraft and being a 21 footer it would have to be the Chieftain.

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                    • #11
                      Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                      Originally posted by tglime View Post
                      Thank you, great feedback.

                      The motor is a 1980-81 85 hp Johnson out board tilt and trim (New tilt elec motor 2009).
                      It would be a 1980. If it was an '81, it'd be a 90HP (which I have). That's a great motor and the TnT is a big plus. I'd probably go $2k on that rig. (I'd of course offer $1500 first)
                      1976 18' Starcraft SuperSport 90HP Evinrude
                      Restoration thread http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=357767
                      1966 16' Starcraft Jupiter 85HP Johnson
                      Restoration thread http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=338633 sold

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                      • #12
                        Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                        Very interesting find. I agree with most estimates on $ negotiations. The asking price is high. Be sure the trailer is OK too. If you acquire it it will be an interesting rehab. Good luck.
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                        • #13
                          Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                          well...Did you aquire this thing?
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                          • #14
                            Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                            Originally posted by CheapboatKev View Post
                            well...Did you aquire this thing?
                            I did acquire this diamond in the rough. Here in MN we finally had temps above freezing, so it made for good negotiations.

                            I'm a little nervous for not getting a sea trial, but the motor turned over and looked to be in pretty good shape for its age (1980). We had the water ear muffs attached to the lower intake and a garden hose. However the water was not squirting out of the water pump-most likely due to frozen water already in there. Wish we could have ran it longer but it is what it is and now shes mine.

                            Thanks again for all the useful information. I will post photos of her transformation over the summer.

                            You really don't see too many of these on the water anymore. Truly a great find. I cannot wait to shine her up. I think I'm going to name her SERENITY.

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                            • #15
                              Re: 1963 Montgomery Wards Sea King Cuddy - Starcraft Chieftain

                              Originally posted by tglime View Post
                              I did acquire this diamond in the rough. Here in MN we finally had temps above freezing, so it made for good negotiations.

                              I'm a little nervous for not getting a sea trial, but the motor turned over and looked to be in pretty good shape for its age (1980). We had the water ear muffs attached to the lower intake and a garden hose. However the water was not squirting out of the water pump-most likely due to frozen water already in there. Wish we could have ran it longer but it is what it is and now shes mine.

                              Thanks again for all the useful information. I will post photos of her transformation over the summer.

                              You really don't see too many of these on the water anymore. Truly a great find. I cannot wait to shine her up. I think I'm going to name her SERENITY.
                              Well WELCOME ABOARD!
                              Your comment on the water frozen in the water pump concerns me, but I am not an OB guy..Was this motor out in the elements un winterized?
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