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  • 1988 Rogue 2420

    Not my first boat, however it is my first Cruisers. Picked up a great Rogue 2420 with a fresh rebuild on the Volvo-Penta DP290 outdrive and a complete new interior.

    The hour meter shows 730 hours, however suspect the key has been left on a few times and guess the engine has about 650ish - 700ish hours.

    so, there are a few little things that I need to get up to par:

    the 14" windshield wiper has long since lost the rubber. it is a simple straight stainless steel blade. anyone have a clue where to find one. been looking for about a month with no luck.

    looking to add another bank of batteries for overnights or replace the two grp 27's with grp 31 AGM's. torn between East Penn and Odyssey. the engineer in me is leaning toward Odyssey....my wallet is leaning toward East Penn. anyone have any problems with East Penn?

    looking for the convertible canvas bows. the marina that the boat has gone thru 3 times now has lost the canvas bows (and a prop, and other things). anyone know which canvas company made the originals? if I cant find original or replacement, then I will make my own.

    the AQ271C runs great, however like everything I own, I need more power... any one know the limit of the DP290 drive? I would like to bump up the power to about 350hp from the 270 now.

    Here are some links to various projects on the boat:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=537457
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=503800
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=536450
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=500174
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=533202



    Here is the link to picking the new color scheme on the boat:
    http://forums.iboats.com/forum/other...e-to-photoshop


    Here is the new motor build thread on the boat:
    http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engin...ll-the-admiral
    Last edited by Scott Danforth; July 10th, 2017, 02:51 PM.
    1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

    Past Boats
    1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
    2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
    1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

    What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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    Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

    For the wiper blade try greatlakesskipper.com/. They are also known as Kendor Marine and are located in Franklin WI south of Milwaukee. Worth the trip if you're in the area.

    You might be able to find the parts for the canvas top there as well.
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    • #3
      Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

      Thanks for the reply, however already been down that path. it is NOT an AFI wiper and that is all I can find. The 14" blades available for sale today do not fit the arm. guessing I will have to replace the whole arm.

      As for the top, there are many places to get the hardware or have one custom made. However I was looking to get bows from the original manufacturer so there was no guess work.
      1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

      Past Boats
      1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
      2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
      1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

      What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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      • #4
        Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

        ok, so here is the progress:

        the original wiper is a Bosch unit, 14" long. Cuisers can order it for $35. so I went to the local parts store, bought an Anco automotive blade for $6.

        found a used set of bows that I widened 3" and shortened the height by 3" to fit the existing canvas. Found a barely used Bimini. with minor modifications to the frame, it will fit just great.

        found the only rock in Sand Bay, so I am sporting a new set of B5 Propellers.

        Have a backup set of B6's.

        got a new porta potty for the cabin, cleaned the upholstery, and mounted two new fire extinquishers. mounted a drink holder for the helm.

        still looking for my battery powered blender - its around the house somewhere.

        tonight ordered a set of anchor chocks, a new deck pipe to run rope and anchor chain to the well, and a volvo specific flush kit. Wish Iboats had all of it in one location. found what I believe to be a whitecape # 6008HC deck pipe on Ebay for $44.

        BOAT really is an acronym for Break Out Another Thousand.

        The boat hull is good for 70mph according to the customer service guy at Cruisers. so I have plenty of room to improve on the current 43mph with the B5's and the stock AQ271C. Looking to convert to Vortec heads, a different intake, cam, and some carb tuning. goal with the 350 is 330hp. this will most likely wait until winter when the boat cant be in the water for a few months.
        1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

        Past Boats
        1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
        2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
        1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

        What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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        • #5
          Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

          this weekend I will install the anchor chocks and deck pipe to finally mount the anchor so I dont trip over it. still nave the Bimini to mount, however that will have to wait for crappy weather when the boat isnt going to get wet.

          need to find a place to locate the rear anchor. thinking of a tote in the bilge area and having it held down with velcro. the other thought is turning one of the rear steps into a rear anchor locker.

          Still plan on picking up a band separator for the shakespear antenna, however the radio is ipod ready so will be listening to the ipod all weekend.
          1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

          Past Boats
          1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
          2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
          1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

          What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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          • #6
            Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

            in the front of the berth is a nice little triangular storage area. now looking for something to put the two spare props into that will fit in there and not bang the props up or wear thru the hull. thinking prop bags, however those things must be made of silk for the price they want.
            1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

            Past Boats
            1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
            2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
            1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

            What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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            • #7
              Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

              need to restore the silk screen labels on the dash. anyone know what the labels should be for the boat graphic display?
              1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

              Past Boats
              1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
              2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
              1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

              What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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              • #8
                Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                more progress:

                ran 6 gage wire from the hotel battery to a set of power strips. cleaning up 20 years of splices, bad wiring, etc. Added two 12v power outlets to the cuddy for charging cell phones, powering the coffee pot, etc.

                removed about a pound of bad wiring, splices going to splices, etc.

                need to trace why everything is hot and not run thru ignition. I can see where the junction is. just need to trace and separate.

                properly installed the radio (repaired all the twist and tape splices)

                new horns installed

                Tomorrow, add main circuit breaker to the power feed I ran, button up the interior, add LED courtesy lights, and a pilot relay off the ignition circuit so depth finder, etc. only runs with ignition.

                in the next few weeks, two power outlets to an area on the dash for the spot light, etc. LED lights to replace the incandescents throughout the boat to minimize power draw when anchored. Adding LED rope lighting to the cabin.

                on the list for next season: rear anchor locker, transom shower and water system, built-in coolers
                1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                Past Boats
                1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                • #9
                  Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                  spent the weekend actually using the boat and not working on it. intended on touring the whole Door county peninsula, however what was supposed to be a south west wind, was actually south east, so the lake side was rough at Death's Door. on way back in Egg Harbor came across two other Rogues anchored together. a 1988 2400 and a 1989 2500. both with thirsty big blocks. still going the route this winter of heads, cam, and different intake. was almost tempted to consider a big block.
                  1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                  Past Boats
                  1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                  2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                  1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                  What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                  • #10
                    Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                    Boat is currently winterized. Started piling up the parts for the engine mods. need to also work on the trailer brakes. will be installing a new surge brake head. bought one off of Ebay for $10. it sat so long in a moist environment with the cap off that the master cylinder rusted tight, hence the $10 price. so for another $48 a new master cylinder kit will be added. cant complain though, a complete new unit is $120+
                    1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                    Past Boats
                    1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                    2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                    1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                    What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                    • #11
                      Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                      slight update.

                      compiling pile of engine related parts - covering that in another post.

                      Need some BTDT. the boat is clean - however there is much non-used space outside the main stringers alongside the fuel tank. its an area about 6' long, 18" wide - on each side of the fuel tank. I will be using a bore-scope from work to peer into the area via the access ports and around the fuel tank.

                      I would like to use the area for storage lockers or a fresh water tank.

                      other than pulling the rub rail and pulling the whole cap - anyone have an idea.
                      1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                      Past Boats
                      1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                      2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                      1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                      What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                      • #12
                        Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                        plan for this weekend. have a bore scope in hand - headed to the boat to look into the areas that I cant see otherwise. looking to see if I can use the areas under the seats that are currently hollow.
                        1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                        Past Boats
                        1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                        2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                        1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                        What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                        • #13
                          Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                          pulled the motor this weekend, now to clean the bilge area.

                          Here is a link to the webshots album: http://community.webshots.com/album/582479054oAGiOJ
                          1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                          Past Boats
                          1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                          2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                          1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                          What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                          • #14
                            Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                            work on the bulkhead and floatation boxes lead to removing stringers. more in this link: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=537457

                            Motor is together, waiting on the boat. here is the motor thread : http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=503800 and more importantly, here is the first fire-up - http://rides.webshots.com/video/3002...01989507frlsxt

                            weather is finally getting nice, going to pull boat out of storage and pull home to finish working on the glass. driving 20 miles to work in a dimly lit area is not fun.
                            1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                            Past Boats
                            1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                            2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                            1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                            What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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                            • #15
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                              Re: 1988 Rogue 2420

                              finished the bilge area and finally got the boat splashed. ran into a few issues:

                              bad ignition stuff:
                              http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=554172

                              issues changing props:
                              http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=553570

                              will have it back in the water tomorrow or wednesday.
                              1988 Cruisers Rogue 2420 -VP 290 DP now powered by custom 468 - http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...988-rogue-2420

                              Past Boats
                              1970 Wooster Hellion - Merc 9.8
                              2002 SeaRay 190BR - 5.0 - A1G2 - "Cheasheads in Paradise"
                              1984 Avanti 170DLI -3.0 stringer- "Ship Happens"

                              What’s behind you doesn’t matter.Enzo Ferrari

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