Anybody know any good gun guys?

MTboatguy

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Hey guys,

Just wondering, My Dad, unfortunately sent me home with all of the remaining long guns because he told he, would not be able to shoot anymore! If you knew my Dad, you would know how sad this is!

But anyway, one of the guns he sent me home with was a gun I picked up at a garage sale for $20.00 over 20 years ago and gave to him for Christmas one year. I never did any research on it, just thought it was a cool old gun, it is a Model 1906 Winchester Gallery Gun. After a bit of searching this morning, based on what I have read, this particular model didn't exist in the configuration I have in my hands, all of the numbers on it match and all I can track down is it was made sometime between 1908 and 1932, so I figured it would be best to talk to someone who knows way more than I do, so who is your goto guy for old guns?
 

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My dad could probably answer some of the questions, but he collects military weapons. I know he's had 22 Winchesters in the past but, I've never heard him mention the 1906 before.

I didn't find anything about Gallery models, but this seems to be a wealth of info:
[h=2]Winchester Model 1906 .22 caliber Pump Action Rifle
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[h=3][/h] The Model 1906 was introduced as an economical version of the Model 1890, and came with a 20? round barrel. This pump or slide action rifle was produced between 1906 and until 1932, and was the second in a progression of Winchester Pump action rifles that that evolved in this order: Model 1890, Model 1906, Model 62, Model 61 . During this period, slightly under 800,000 were were completed. Every Winchester 1906 was produced in the takedown design and shot only .22 caliber ammo of differing lengths - .22 short, .22 long, .22 LR, and .22WRF. Special order options include walnut stocks and nickel plating.
There are basically three Models of the 1906 Winchester.
The first model was the '.22 Short-only Model' with a plain straight-grip stock, a flat plain butt and plate, the forearm pump handle was smooth and had a serial number less than 113,000.
The Second version was the Standard Model 1906, and differed by being able to shoot interchangeably short, long or long-rifle bullets, and by having a grooved forearm (slide handle) and numbered between 113,000-852,000.
The third model of 1906 was a more deluxe variety, called the "Model 1906 Expert." This model differed by being made with upgrades like a pistol-grip stock and a fluted smooth pump grip. The 'Expert' version was produced only between 1918 to 1924 and had serial numbers between 535,540 and 649,951. The 'Expert' model had three differently finishes from the factory which were blued finished receiver, half-nickel or full nickel receiver, and could also have other special order features.

[h=3]MODEL 1906 Serial Numbers - Winchester Model 1906 serial number lookup:[/h]
Year
First Serial No that Year
1906
1
1906 Serial Number Information
Serial Numbers are not 100% sequential, as blocks of serial number were omitted during production.
Last serial number is 847,997


1907
52279
1908
89149
1909
114141
1910
165072
1911
221194
1912
273360
1913
326961
1914
381929
1915
422742
1916
453889
1917
483815
1918
517754
1919
535552
1920
593930
1921
597679
1922
598765
1923
600172
1924
601569
1925
615132
1926
628922
1927
644455
1928
658864
1929
674888
1930
690176
1931
699091
1932
704954
1933
706330
1934
706995
1935
708249
1936
708259
 

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Hi JB,

I have read through those pages, but this particular one seems to have a feature, that is extremely rare for this model of gun, it is a Model 1906 .22 that shoots, shorts, long and long rifle loads, but the odd feature this one has, it is fully nickle plated, receiver, barrel and magazine tube as well as all of the screws are nickle plated, which I am finding out is very rare for this particular model.

Also, this is what was called the standard model, which a few with nickle plated receivers around, but no mention of full nickle plated models, there is only a few full nickle plated expert models. So I was figuring you guys might know somebody I could contract. If not, I may give the Cody Museum a call and see what they have to say.
 
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Have you called Winchester ?I wanted to find out when my old 12 gauge was made and by the sin they told me the year and even the day it was made and that it was was one of a set of 2 the other being a 20 gauge I believe.
 

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Well, I did have a so called gun expert write me back today, telling me it was probably nickle plated after the fact and because the stock has been refinished sometime in the past, that the gun is probably worth nothing, of course I was not looking for a value, I was simply looking for information, but me thinks the guy that emailed me, was intrigue in some form or another. I will not be selling, just wanted a history if I could find it, but it will make a great gopher gun for around the house.
 

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I would say by looking at the pictures, that somebody along the way refinished it. The stock for certain. But the finish does not reflect a 1906 model pump 22. There are no wear marks or any signs it has been used. And that seems questionable to me. I actually have one but in the usual blue steel version. You could check with Mumrich Arms and see if it was ever offered in that finish. They would know. That IS their business. JMHO
 

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Oh, it shows wear,

There is some flaking on a couple of areas and the finish on the trigger guard is showing wear.

I would have to say, they did a good job, because the emblems and engravings are in good shape and they are very readable, but they do look like they have worn over the years. As far as the stock, that is not a big deal to me, I knew someone had refinished it sometime in the past, with spar varnish. I know nothing has been done with it since I gave it to my Dad, it has set in a case, and my jaw dropped on Saturday when he gave it back to me, like said, it will make a great gopher gun if nothing else. The serial number on it indicates it was made in 1927, so for being that old, I would say it is still in pretty good shape.

I do know for a fact, you could get an option to get the receiver nickle plated from the factory, but I have not seen one that had the round barrel or the magazine nickle plated, so it remains a mystery..
 
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Ya' need your Roy Rogers outfit ... cool lookin' gun MT. Betcha' it's fun to shoot.
 

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I vote for a metal re-plate. It appears to be brushed nickle and as far as I know they did not have that in the day. It would have either been shiny chrome, if they offered that option, or blued.
 

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I vote for a metal re-plate. It appears to be brushed nickle and as far as I know they did not have that in the day. It would have either been shiny chrome, if they offered that option, or blued.

I can tell you with all confidence, it is not brushed, it is worn that has caused the finish to not be sparkling.

In mean time, Dad also gave me his Stainless 10/22 with an 8x40 swarovski scope on it, in the hard case with 2 25 round as well as 3 10 magazine and a hot lips loader.

3rd one he gave me is a Thompson Center, Scout .50 Muzzle loader.

As far as Nickle Plating, Winchester did in fact offer as an option way back then.
 

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That plating is in too good of condition to be OE. They did do a good job on it though and it is a nice firearm! Sad for your dad though.
 

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My dad had a 22 like that but it had an octagon barrel.
I am no gun plumber by any means, but do the stampings appear on yours like they would appear on a non nickle barrel/receiver?
 

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My dad had a 22 like that but it had an octagon barrel.
I am no gun plumber by any means, but do the stampings appear on yours like they would appear on a non nickle barrel/receiver?

The stampings on the barrel, receiver and tang appear to be original stampings, I would believe they would be muddy, if the gun was plated after the fact, I am going to take detailed pictures and talk to the Buffalo Bill Museum in Cody, WY, they have the biggest and most complete database of the guns that Winchester made over the last 150+ years and they are considered the best authorities in the world on them.. Like I said, it is not for sale, so I am not worried about value really.
 
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