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  • Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

    Hey Guys,

    Here is the scoop. I have an opportunity to purchase a Sea Ray 207 boat that was tied to a tree close to a cabin where the area flooded and the boat floated roughly 3 to 4 months with the trailer attached.

    **The trailer was under water for 3 to 4 months** The trailer has not been towed at all since the water dropped to normal.

    Do you think the bearing / axles are shot?

    Am I out-of-line for wanting the seller to pull the trailer a few miles himself to confirm towing ability?

    If the bearing were greased with Marine grease should the bearings / axles be fine?

    I would have to tow the trailer 260 miles across I-80 and the seller is being jerky about asking him to do a test pull on the bearings before I commit to purchase. He lives 30 to 45 mins away.

    Your Thoughts?

    Thx


  • #2
    Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

    Have a flat bead bring it home. I wouldn't trust the bearings further than i can throw them.

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    • #3
      Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

      With 3-4 months under water there's a fair chance that there will be problems. Flood damaged vehicles are especially prone to electrical problems. I'd be suspicious of the brakes and bearings as well. A tow of a couple miles might be OK but I'd be very leery of pulling that 260 mile miles down the interstate. If the seller is being a jerk about a reasonable request, you might consider what that will mean as to the rest of the transaction or if any problems show up. Boating season is done and you have several months to find a closer boat with a reasonable seller and a good trailer.

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      • #4
        Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

        A lot would depend on freshwater or saltwater....In any event, you need to jack it up and pull the wheels and hubs off to see what you got....maybe if the bearings were totally full of waterproof marine grease and you get real lucky everything is O.K.....you gotta check them, rather than get stuck out on the highway with a bad bearings!....

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        • #5
          Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

          "He lives 30 to 45 mins away." I saw this and thought that was as far as you had to go, being 260 miles that would be more expansive. Stuck breaks, bad lights, and rusty bearings. The trailer would need the axle "s" taken apart and everithang checked.

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          • #6
            Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

            I would say it depends if you're getting this boat cheap enough to justify doing EVERYTHING suggested above. Definitely don't pull it out of the yard without packing bearings at minimum.

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            • #7
              Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

              Originally posted by MWG2600 View Post
              "He lives 30 to 45 mins away." I saw this and thought that was as far as you had to go, being 260 miles that would be more expansive. Stuck breaks, bad lights, and rusty bearings. The trailer would need the axle "s" taken apart and everithang checked.
              Brg's will probably be okay. Brake shoes/pads will be junk. Spindles should be okay .Wheel cyl's will be junk.
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              • #8
                Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                if you aren't getting it cheap enough to justify hauling it on a flat bed then don't buy it.... the trailer MIGHT be gtg with a bearing repack or it might not but consider it a total loss when buying...... if the seller says no then yep you are out of line pushing further.... you would obviously be buying it as is where is.... offer accordingly

                Also consider that if the boat set in flood water for 4 months, it may have damage as well..... tied to a tree unattended and safely tied to a dock are two different situations.... are you SURE the boat was floating? No water in the engine or fuel tank?

                Obviously you aren't getting to take it on a sea trial so I'd make an offer based on the boat and trailer both needing major repair (about 10% of normal value) and hope for the best.

                For any items I could verify were in good shape I would consider upping the offer if I had too.

                You are dealing with a lazy seller who couldn't even be bothered to pull his boat out of a flood so also expect to find other things that he couldn't be bothered to do such as winterization..
                Kevin

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                • #9
                  Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                  Just put new bearings & grease in it before you tow - I would rather do it in his driveway than on the side of I80 - Heck - You can get a complete trailer light kit at tractor supply for under $30.00 with all the wire. Is it a single or tandem axle? Is there going to be a boat on the trailer? The brakes are probably toast but I would just do the bearings & lights, Get it home and do the brake job.

                  LK

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                  • #10
                    Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                    I'm sorry and I don't want to offend anyone but this is kind of a dumb question. The fact that you're even asking it gives you your answer. When in doubt, check it out, it's not just your life you might be endangering.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                      That trailer is a write-off if it sat for four months under water. You've got to ask yourself if the PO let it float tied to a tree on the trailer what does the rest of the boat look like? I'd suspect he/she took care of the boat as much as they took care of the trailer... which they didn't.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                        Have you seen the trailer and boat?? I would do that first and use the potential flood damage to leverage a good deal. I don't see how being submerged in fresh water for 3 months could cause any major problems....you will have to pull the dust caps and check for water,if you find any it is not a big deal to pull the hub off and repack. If you see any sign of rust on the bearings you will have to replace them. The axle can tolerate some rust so no concern there. The lights will need to be replaced and if it has electric brakes they will need to be cleaned up. As for the boat pull the dipstick and check for water by letting it drip on your cars exhaust manifold. I would check the hull for damage and check the upholstery for mold or musty smell. This could be a chance for a bargain if you play it right.....if not walk away. Metal underwater is slow to rust because the water entrapment helps to prevent oxidation. You can wait till you get home to deal with the brakes,just be careful. Might be best to avoid the interstate fif possible. Good luck.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                          Anyone that purchases a used boat/trailer should grease and replace all axle bearings--and the bearing races--the very first thing. If you live very far away, find a local boat or trailer dealer to do the job. I've been stranded more than once because of my mistakes pulling trailers.

                          JMW129 didn't say if this trailer had brakes, and a 20' boat may not have them. As long as I knew the bearings were okay, I wouldn't hesitate to pull such a boat home without brakes as long as the tow vehicle was adequate. (I pull with a 3/4 ton diesel.) Then, you can regroup.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                            you can buy trailer bearing kits for about 25 bucks to do both wheels and it only takes an hour...for peace of mind, it is money well spent. I am a firm believer if you don't know what kind of maintenance the trailer received over the years...something as cheap and easy as bearings should be replaced.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Trailer Under Water Four Months... Bearings, Axle Concerns? Input ASAP!!

                              Hey guys,

                              Thank you for all your comments. I have seen the boat, not in bad shape BUT is dirty. Seller has not cleaned the outside of the boat or the interior. The trailer isn't in bad shape but nothing to brag about either.

                              Seller told me the boat has been winterized since 2007. The hull up close isn't stress cracked, gashed or stratched up. The interior like I said is very dirty and will need to be treated for mold & mildew.

                              The agreed upon price was $625 for this boat BUT.....

                              If the trailer doesen't make it back to my home after a 4 hr drive is it worth it?

                              The boat is roomy, has a 350 Merc BUT I can't swap out the trailer for another because the cabin area land wise is chewed up because of the flood.

                              I was hoping to aquire a really cool Sea Ray 207 and I didn't mention it's an 1983 so given the year, the condition of the trailer, the weight of the boat 3,170lb's, and the drive of 260 miles...

                              It's probably best that I not make the drive and aquire this boat. My girlfriend like's the size of the boat and the fact it's probably a smooth riding bow rider, she did say the trailer concerns her & I felt the same so that's why I wanted a 2nd opion from everyone about this trailer.

                              The last thing I need is someone dying on the interstate because of my new boat trailer (crappy) locking up, wheel falling off, etc causing a huge crash either ***-end or other lane and killing someone.

                              Boats are fun but having it at the cost of another persons safey or life, liability $$ wise, etc.. just isn't worth it.

                              I can't even imagine the hellish experience of having to deal with a locked-up or badly non-functioning trailer going 70mph to 75mph down the road....

                              This is literally short notice request for replies & well appreciated. I had to confirm with the seller my decision tomorrow and will back out. I hate backing out as I'm a man of my word but it's for the best in this scenario. Now if all of you were close I would invite everyone over for some grillin & drinks..

                              Just another Midwest guy.. BTW the midwest is a great place to live for you east & west coast friends!

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