Axle Rebuild

jmeny

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Replacing a trailer axle, hubs, and springs in the next couple of days. New axle is square tube galvanized (no holes will be drilled), hubs are electro-plated, springs are standard steel painted. Anyways, the trailer is used in salt, and I want to make this one last as long as possible. Would a cold galvanizing spray or something similar be good to use on any of these parts for longevity or would it cause more problems down the road? I was also thinking of using the corrosionx hd on all new parts/hardware. Anyone use this stuff or recommend something different as a good rust preventative?

Thanks,
Joe
 

alldodge

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Found this on an website
This was in this months Powerboat Reports. I use it as my bible when buying boat products, especially cleaning supplies.

Metal Maintenance: 12 Corrosion Inhibitors (Salt Water) Tested

What keeps corrosion at bay best in the marine environment? We found out by testing a dozen corrosion inhibitors, including products from well-known names such as CRC, WD-40, LPS, and Boeshield. One of mankind?s greatest early achievements was the extraction of pure metal from rock. The process takes ingenuity and consumes vast amounts of energy. So it is with considerable frustration that we watch nature so easily reclaim what we have wrought at such cost. Few are more familiar with corrosion than mariners, who fight a constant battle against it in the salty interface between sea and sky.

Each of the test products was applied to two mild steel strips?one to be suspended in salt water and the other to be sprayed with fresh water. The strips pictured here are post testing; the left strip of each pair is the freshwater panel.
A visit to the hardware store or a search on the Internet reveals no shortage of products to address, and even redress, corrosion?most are touted as being able to penetrate ("frees rusted parts"), lubricate, or protect electrical components. Here we examine the corrosion-inhibiting properties.

What We Tested
We chose the products based largely on their advertized claims and also on how easy they were to find. Several are available in hardware stores. West Marine carries its private-label product, CorrosionPro Lube, as well as CRC Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor, Corrosion Block, Boeshield T-9, and WD-40. CorrosionX, Shark Hide, the LPS products, and TC-11 all popped up during Internet searches. We left out products that made no specific claims for use in the marine environment. Anything that had "rust" and any reference to "marine" or "boats" or "salt spray" was fair game.
Twelve made the roster: PMS Products? Boeshield T-9; LPS Laboratories? LPS 1, LPS 2, and LPS 3; Corrosion Technologies Corp.?s CorrosionX and CorrosionX HD; ICC Industries? TC-11; Lear Chemical Research Corp.?s Corrosion Block; West Marine?s CorrosionPro Lube; CRC Heavy Duty; Shark Hide; and WD-40, because it was already in the workshop.
Each showed different degrees of viscosity, all went on wet, and most stayed wet, or at least tacky. Those that left a waxy coating performed the best in the saltwater test.
None is pleasant to use and all of their containers carry stern warnings about flammability, use in poorly ventilated areas, and against inhaling them. Most use heavier-than-air butane, pentane, or heptane, or a mixture thereof, as propellants, which means there?s a risk of an explosive mixture accumulating in confined spaces such as bilge compartments. Ventilate these areas throroughly before operating anything that might create a spark.
The LPS products use carbon dioxide as propellant, and Corrosion Block nitrogen, but the solvents are still flammable.

Boeshield T-9
According to its maker, Boeshield T-9 is designed for penetration, moisture displacement, lubrication, and rust and corrosion protection. Heavier than some of the other sprays in our test, it dries slightly tacky.
The T-9-coated strip sprayed with fresh water was rust-free after a week. The one submerged in salt water had rust around the screw and at the top after three days. The trend continued through eight days, with more corrosion on the cured side (see sidebar above) than on the uncured side.
Bottom Line: In terms of what our test covered, T-9 works as advertised, even in salt water. Slightly more corrosion at the screw and price edged it out of the top three.

Corrosion Block
Advertised as a corrosion preventor and inhibitor, Corrosion Block is a heavy, blue spray that dries thin, clear, and slightly tacky.
After seven days of freshwater dousing, the Corrosion Block-coated strip showed some rust spots at the top, where we?d expected a thicker coating. The saltwater strip, however, was very rusty after three days?except for an area toward the top. After eight days, it had rust all over it.
Bottom Line: Corrosion Block is OK for freshwater purposes, but not salt water. To be fair, the manufacturer makes no claim regarding rust.

CorrosionPro Lube
West Marine claims its product offers "...excellent water resistance and superior rust and corrosive preventative characteristics." And it does.
This fine spray leaves a visible, amber-colored, waxy coating. The coating remained intact through a week of freshwater dousing, and the metal strip showed no signs of rust. The saltwater strip saw similar success: The coating remained after three days, and there were no signs of rust. It was only after eight days of saltwater abuse that some rust appeared along the "uncured" edge.
Bottom Line: This product does what it claims. The waxy film isn?t pleasant to the touch, but for hard-to-reach parts, it?s on the money.

CorrosionX
This aerosol, which makers claim provides protection against rust and corrosion, initially forms a foamy, blue-green film. The bubbles eventually disappear.
CorrosionX?s freshwater performance was excellent: After seven days, there was no rust and the film was still tacky. (So sticky, in fact, that a few small flies met their end on the metal strip.) Unfortunately, its saltwater efficacy rated at the other end of the spectrum. After eight days, except for a band at the top, the metal strip was very rusty, and particularly corroded around screw.
Bottom Line: CorrosionX works fine in a freshwater environment, but it?s not ready for brine time, especially in a mixed-metal situation.

CorrosionX HD
Think of this as CorrosionX?s big brother: A "high-performance, thick film version of CorrosionX," according to Corrosion Technologies Corp. It comes out as a fine spray with some bubbles and a thick, amber color.
Like its sibling, we rated it Excellent in the freshwater test, but it wasn?t up to the challenge of salt water. The strip in saltwater had a rusty bottom half and a less-rusty top half, almost in proportion to the thickness of its coating. A clear halo appeared where the product accumulated around the nut, and curiously, less corrosion formed on the "uncured" side.
Bottom Line: The sticky film does resist freshwater penetration, but it isn?t immune to salt water, especially for the long term.

CRC Corrosion Inhibitor
CRC Heavy-Duty Corrosion Inhibitor, which is seemingly identical in appearance and performance to CorrosionPro Lube, is made for saltwater use. It claims to protect and preserve metal surfaces subject to salt spray and high humidity. It comes out as a fine spray with a thick coating.
The freshwater test strip still had a sufficient coating and no rust after seven days. It was equally impressive in the saltwater test: coating intact and no rust after eight days.
Bottom Line: Excellent performance. It lives up to its claims.

LPS 1
LPS Labs offers three products with three levels of rust protection. LPS 1 is marketed as a greaseless lubricant that displaces moisture. Colorless, it has a broad spray range.
In the freshwater test, the LPS 1 panel only had some rust on the uncured side after a week. After three days in salt water, the strip was very rusty, except at the top, and by Day 8, it had rusted all over. The brass screw also showed signs of rust, as though iron were being transported to its surface by galvanic action, there to repeat its demise (just a guess).
Bottom Line: LPS literature says the product displaces moisture on electronic components and that its light, greaseless film inhibits corrosion. It doesn?t claim to prevent rust, but it works for fresh water, if given time to cure. The broad spray pattern made it difficult to concentrate the product where it was wanted.

LPS 2
LPS 2 is touted as a multi-purpose lubricant and penetrant with added corrosion protection. It?s a colorless, fine spray with a strong almond odor and broad spray pattern.
The freshwater LPS 2 panel had no rust after three days, but some after seven days; more on the "uncured" side. After three days, the saltwater test strip exhibited extensive rusting, and after eight days, it was completely corroded.
Bottom Line: LPS 2 claims to provide protection indoors for a year, and its performance indicates that as its limit. It is not useful in salt water.

LPS 3
The strongest of the LPS series, LPS 3 claims to be a long-term, heavy-duty rust inhibitor, even in the harshest environment. Its bubbly, thick spray forms a waxy, pale brown coating.

The CRC spray (left) is the least expensive of the three products that showed no rust in saltwater. The CorrosionX HD saltwater panel (right), like several other test panels, had more rust on its bottom half than its top half, and oddly, it had less rust on its ?uncured? side.
After a week of freshwater exposure, there was no sign of rust and the coating was still tacky. And even after eight days of saltwater torture, the LPS 3 panel showed no sign of rust and it was still very sticky.
Bottom Line: We tested it under "harsh conditions," and it does what it claims?but it?s not pretty.

Shark Hide
Shark Hide claims to be a protective coating against weathering and salt spray. Marketed mainly to owners of aluminum pontoon boats and similar craft, it lists steel among the surfaces it can be used on.
Unlike the other test products, Shark?s Hide is a thin, colorless liquid?not an aerosol?that wipes on with soft cloth. It?s a thin liquid, and has really nasty solvents (toluene and xylene)?so be sure to apply it in the open air and wear gloves.
The freshwater test strip showed rust spots on the "uncured" side after three days. But there was no rust on the cured side, even after a week.
The saltwater panel?s uncured side was rather rusty after three days, but the other side had only mottled rust. Even after eight days, the coupon wasn?t completely rusted.
Bottom Line: Shark?s Hide works well in fresh water when allowed to cure. And it performed better than expected (Fair) in salt water for having such an invisible coating. It?s easy to apply to large, smooth surfaces, less so to small parts like nuts and bolts.

TC-11
TC-11 is the "complete answer for rust control," according to its maker. The bubbly, blue-green spray forms a thick coating that was still sticky after a week of freshwater exposure. It kept the freshwater panel rust-free after seven days.
The saltwater panel did not fare as well: After three days, it had extensive rusting, and after eight days, only the very top was rust-free.
Bottom Line: This product isn?t the silver bullet?but it works in fresh water.

WD-40
Nearly as ubiquitous as duct tape, WD-40 claims to protect against rust and corrosion.
Although the fine, colorless spray?s coating was dry after a week of freshwater sprays, the panel had no rust.
However, after three days in salt water, the metal strip was completely rusted, except the top. After eight days, only the very top was showing resistance.
Bottom Line: This product works well in fresh water?and makes no greater claims.

Conclusions
Our salt water test is admittedly harsh, and quickly produced results. After three days, most of the steel coupons were significantly rusty. Only three saltwater test panels showed no corrosion: Those coated with CorrosionPro Lube, CRC Heavy Duty, and LPS-3.

Of the remainder, the Boeshield T-9 panel showed the least corrosion, followed by the cured Shark Hide. (The cured vs. non-cured results support the notion that it pays to follow instructions. Most non-cured sides mimicked the control panel.)
In the freshwater test, the Shark Hide remained rust free. It might be the answer for stainless steel rigging, stern rails, etc., because it leaves no sticky residue?however, it?s an expensive solution.
At 63? per ounce, CRC gets the Best Buy nod. For day-to-day use, loosening sticky mechanical parts, or softening greasy deposits, WD-40 works and is inexpensive.
In our opinion, the perfect solution still evades us. Where iron-based alloys are unavoidable and stainless steel isn?t suitable, the best protection against the ravages of salt water is a coat of paint.
Where paint isn?t an option, long-term protection against rust requires the use of sticky, dirt-attracting coatings, like the top performers in this test.

PMS Products Inc. (Boeshield T-9), 800/962-1732,
boeshield.com
Lear Chemical Research Corp. (Corrosion Block), 800/256-2548,
learchem.com

Corrosion Technologies Corp.,
(CorrosionX, CorrosionX HD), 877/577-5803,
corrosionx.com
CRC Industries Inc., 800/556-5074,
crcindustries.com
LPS Laboratories, 800/241-8334,
lpslabs.com

ICC Industries (TC-11), 877/240-7806,
tc-11.com
WD-40, 800/448-9340,
wd40.com

This test showing CorrisionX HD is good for fresh water only
 

Starcraft5834

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any protection is better than none.. im a fresh water guy... if I splashed down in the salt all the time.. I'd recommend when you get home to take the garden hose and spray down your trailer... hassle? ya.. how else are you going to slow down the corrosion.. my 2c
 

jmeny

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AllDodge, yeah I saw that article and was wondering about it...lots of people using the stuff seem to swear by it but then that test had me second guessing. May have to try CRC or LPS 3 on one set of springs and the corrosionx on the other set, see what happens. Maybe it's different when the parts aren't sitting in water for extended periods.

Imperial, I hear ya but dunking 3+ times a week is a lot of time spent holding a garden hose. I do that for a living already so I'd rather be holdin a beer! And I figure once I launch I can't wash til I'm home, so that salt's already had time to start workin. If the springs last me 6 years and they cost me $60, that's $10 a year, not too shabby.

Cheers,
Joe
 

Scott Danforth

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we use Boeshield at work (marine equipment) and it works great for a bit, however needs to be re-applied often.

CRC has an extreme duty corrosion inhibitor in their marine line that I have used that works well..

on my trailer, after assembly, I sprayed every bolt with cold galvanizing compound followed by the rustoleum multi-surface primer and rustoleum (red or black) to hide the galvanizing compound. I then sprayed the leaf springs, axle mounting bolts brake mounting hardware, landing gear, etc with CRC open gear and chain lube. Everything remains coated with a nice coating of lube, bugs, and what-not. it also works as an undercoating in Wisconsin.
 

jmeny

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Scott,

That sounds like some good protection, think I might try this route. The axle I'm putting on was hot-dip galvanized...is there any reason I can't spray some cold galvanizing compound on this for some added protection? I haven't read anything that says this would be a problem but want to be sure I'm not either wasting my time or doing more harm than good.

Thanks,
Joe
 

BigDfromTN

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Imperial, I hear ya but dunking 3+ times a week is a lot of time spent holding a garden hose. I do that for a living already so I'd rather be holdin a beer!

Cheers,
Joe

Don't you have 2 hands??? :lol:
 

jmeny

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LOL touche sir, touche. Well I think I'm good to go, thanks all for the suggestions. Now to go screw this up somehow...
 
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