Boat model

bowsox88

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I just bought a 1985 sylvan runabout, this is what it says on the title with unknown under model. When I looked up the hon on boatfax it say it's a 1983 and does not give me the model name. My question is how do I find out what model it is and is boat fax a trustworthy site reguarding it saying it is an 83 vs the title saying its an 85?
 

southkogs

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Welcome aboard bowsox:

I would try and see if SYLVAN can help you confirm directly. I've not used boat fax at all, so I can't tell you how trustworthy they are. Sylvan may well give ya' a hand though.
 

Bondo

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I just bought a 1985 sylvan runabout, this is what it says on the title with unknown under model. When I looked up the hon on boatfax it say it's a 1983 and does not give me the model name. My question is how do I find out what model it is and is boat fax a trustworthy site reguarding it saying it is an 83 vs the title saying its an 85?

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,...... The last 2 digits of the hin are the year built,.....

If it wasn't titled til '85, that could explain the difference,.....
 

jbcurt00

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BowSox, check your private messages. At the top right corner of any forum webpage, to the left of your user name is a messages button. If it's red and has a # in it, you have a PM, left click it and you'll be taken to your messages page. I'm sending you one that'll have the name and email of who to contact at Sylvan (smokercraft actually, but he should be helpful). Send him the HIN and a profile pix. If you think your model was made in multiple lengths (like a 12, 14 and 16ft versions) send him a length too.

I've used this HIN decoder in the past to ID year and make, to date it hasn't been inaccurate:
http://hindecoder.com/

Hopefully Sylvan will be helpful. If you can confirm the year, you might be able to locate a brochure online that will allow you to compare those pix to your boat and figure out what model it is. And not have to wait to take a pix, email Sylvan and wait for a response.

Year is fairly easy to ID on a post mid-70's boat, the HIN should be a 12 digit standard hull identification number, in one of the 2 following formats (from here):
[h=3]Hull ID Numbers[/h] Play the Numbers Game (What's a HIN?) Did you ever wonder what that strange series of letters and numbers on the transom of your boat are. Well, if you have taken the Nautical Know How course you know they are Hull Identification Numbers (HIN) and that they are required. But, what do they mean?
All boats manufactured or imported on or after November 1, 1972 must bear a HIN. The HIN is a 12 character serial number that uniquely identifies your boat. The HIN has an important safety purpose. It enables manufacturers to clearly identify for boat owners the boats that are involved in a defect notification and recall campaign. A HIN is not the same as a State registration number, which may be required to be displayed on the bow of your boat. The HIN is a Federal requirement; your boat?s registration number is a State requirement similar to the license plate on your car. The HIN, however, is required to be shown on the State certificate of registration.
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Figure 1 - HIN Formats Before August 1, 1984
The boat manufacturer must display two identical hull identification numbers, no less than one-fourth of an inch high, on each boat hull. The primary HIN must be permanently affixed (so that it can be seen from outside the boat) to the starboard side of the transom within two inches of the top of the transom, gunwale, or hull/deck joint, whichever is lowest. On boats without transoms or on boats on which it would be impractical to the transom, the HIN must be affixed to the starboard outboard side of the hull, aft within one foot of the stern and within two inches of the top of hull side, gunwale, or hull/deck joint, whichever is lowest. The starboard outboard side of the hull aft is the preferred HIN location for many manufacturers. On catamarans and pontoon boats the HIN must be affixed on the aft crossbeam within one foot of the starboard hull attachment.​
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Figure 2 - HIN Format After August 1, 1984
Boats manufactured or imported on or after August 1, 1984, also have a duplicate secondary HIN affixed somewhere on an unexposed location inside the boat or beneath a fitting or item of hardware. The purpose is to help authorities identify your boat if a thief or vandals remove or damage the primary HIN on the transom. It is illegal for anyone (manufacturer, dealer, distributor, or owner) to alter or remove a HIN without the express written authorization of the Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard.
The regulations prescribe the format of the HIN. The first three characters are a MIC (Manufacturer Identification Code) assigned by the Coast Guard to the manufacturer or the person importing the boat; characters four through eight are a serial number assigned by the manufacturer; the last four characters indicate the month and year the boat was built, and the model year. Prior to August 1, 1984, the manufacturer had the option of expressing this in the form of a model year designation.
The Coast Guard maintains a searchable database of MICs if you want to check yours out - click here.
 

Alumarine

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I just received from ebay a 1983 Sylvan brochure.
If you post a picture and approximate length I can get you some info.
Or a description of what it looks like. Open bow, closed bow, cuddy, outboard .I.O etc.
 
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