Installing Perko Fender Locks

greekfreek

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I've searched about drilling into fiberglass and understand what has to be done. They recommend #8 screw ss. Just wondering how long they should be. Thanks
 

rallyart

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

You could use 1/2" Stainless screws. Fiberglass does not spread much so the drill hole needs to be bigger than you would use on wood. (sorry, I don't remember what size I used) Maybe get one extra screw and use it to 'tap' the holes before you install the screws. Use a bit of sealant in the holes when you install the locks. If you want you could go to a 3/4" length, you won't need longer than that.
Use a larger drill bit to countersink through the gel coat to stop it from cracking when you put the screws in.
 

greekfreek

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

rallyart, thanks for the advice. Really appreciate it....
 

ChampionShip

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

It helps to set your bit on the fiberglass and run fast in reverse to make a little dimple in it- makes a huge difference in how much the fiberglass chips. 3M sealant is a must.
 

greekfreek

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

Thanks, the boat is a year old & I get paranoid about drilling into it..
 

rallyart

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

You should have seen my wife's face when I started drilling 4" holes in mine with zero hours on it. She loves the heater now though.
 

lkbum

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

I am sure a lot of people have had success with fender locks, but not me. I installed some on a pontoon boat and they were broken during the first season. They did see a pretty good load. While rafted to larger boats, wakes from passing boats would move the rafted boats up and down a good bit. The rolling of the rafted boats would be somewhat out of phase and the fenders would get pulled by the rolling motion. These are the ones I used. View attachment fender lock.bmp
 

Grand Larsony

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

I would never trust those things except in VERY limited use. Maybe if you trailer and only use fenders while waiting to exit the water, or possibly if you only tie up to a dock once in a while.

When I worked in a boat store some years ago we had customers come in all too frequently asking for 1) their money back 2) replacement fenders and 3) money towards fixing the damage to their boats. And yes, we eventually stopped carrying those stupid things.

Much better to simply use the existing cleats on the boat or add new ones (especially nice pop-up ones!!) if need be. Some folks tie to bow railings but I wouldn't do that myself... Too easy to have a fender catch under the dock and fold the rail.

What's your docking scenario(s) and can you post a picture of you boat?
 

JimS123

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

Good advice about how to mount them....but don't. Very poor design....I wouldn't own a set.

Buy 2 pairs of deck cleats to match the ones on your boat. Mount them midway between the existing cleats. Its ok to use screws and not thru-bolt them, just remember they are for fenders, tying up tubes while you are anchored, or tying on a fish stringer, not meant for mooring.
 

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

I like mine just fine. Yes I've drove off with a couple of them down a time or two. Had to go hunting for those. But I think they're really helpful after you get them rigged that you can toss a fender to a swab and have it in the right place at the right height. Mine stay on very well overall. I like em'.
 

greekfreek

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

The rear cleat is too far back, when you hang the bumper its about useless. Have a mid cleat. Been using inside handle or bimini tube which I know is not good. Usually boat inland lakes, however when cruising the St Lawrence River/1000Islands area, docking on the river at Clayton,NY, the boat can get hammered to the dock.Boat 001.jpg
 

Brewman61

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

I've successfully used those Perko locks for several years. And I keep my boat on a slip (no lift) all summer. One time one of the brackets broke out the bottom, but it was my fault for tying the boat too tight, and pinching the fender tight against the side of the dock. Otherwise, I've lost no fenders and have had no trouble with them. They are also very handy for quickly hanging fenders for temporary "parking".
 

JoLin

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

Boats NEVER have enough cleats, and it makes good sense to add them for your fenders. You can position them precisely where they'll do your boat the most good, and they serve double duty anytime you need to add an extra line. Buy them the same size as your midship cleats and you gain a lot of versatility.

My .02
 

45Auto

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

My boat had the Perko fender clips on it when I got it. I wasn't very impressed with them.

Ended up removing them and filling the holes in the gelcoat.

Best kept secret in boating is the Folbe Quick Tender fender clips. You can use as many as you like and wherever you like. They clip over the edge of the windshield or on a cleat and allow you to instantly adjust the height of the fender depending upon the dock or boat you're tying up against.

http://www.folbe.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=5&zenid=vhpuitvbn24ehuul2ll3jkvr40

Pic of my boat with the Folbe clips:

DSC05009.jpg
 

Mark42

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

End of season last year I bought fender locks and new fenders. Haven't installed the locks yet. They are different from the ones pictured above. They are the style that has a plastic button that attaches to the fender line and then drops into a slot to hold the fender. Regardless, after reading the nay-sayers, I think I'll skip the fender locks and just tie the fenders on to the cleats. The thought of the fender getting stuck below a dock on a rough water day and ripping the fairly light duty lock and screws out of the glass is just too realistic a situation to risk it. I'd rather shread the fender than damage the glass.
 

Mark42

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

My boat had the Perko fender clips on it when I got it. I wasn't very impressed with them.

Ended up removing them and filling the holes in the gelcoat.

Best kept secret in boating is the Folbe Quick Tender fender clips. You can use as many as you like and wherever you like. They clip over the edge of the windshield or on a cleat and allow you to instantly adjust the height of the fender depending upon the dock or boat you're tying up against.

http://www.folbe.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=5&zenid=vhpuitvbn24ehuul2ll3jkvr40

Pic of my boat with the Folbe clips:

DSC05009.jpg

That's a nice product, but I would NEVER hang ANYTHING off a windshield, especially a fender. Bust the glass, and you are out hundreds if not thousands of dollars. JMO
 

dockwrecker

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

The plates won't pull out if properly installed, at least none of mine have ever become the slightest bit loose in the past 10 years, and my boat sits in the water a good deal of the time with the bumpers hanging. The fender clips slide around too much IMHO.
 

NHGuy

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

I boat on a lake that has some fairly busy public docks which is where I use my fenders. I put them onto the pilings so that if the boat smooshes them, no problem. That is what they are for. In my home slip I am tied off for no dock contact.
 

specmkr

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Re: Installing Perko Fender Locks

Glad I ran across this post. I was deciding whether to add more cleats or use these locks. I am thinking cleats now definitely. Why the install 3 cleats on a 20' vessel I have no idea.
 
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