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  • Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

    Forum,

    I am considering a new boat and have a couple of questions as this is my first boat purchase. Today, after visiting the dealer, my wife and I had been focused on a Regal 2100. This isn't the entry level Regal but not the upper end either. Based on features and price the dealer suggested we also look at the Cobalt 200. This is a very nice boat as well, but it is their entry-level boat. Both were coming in around $38K to $40K, based on the features we wanted. We were getting a few extras on the Regal, but not as many on the Cobalt (from what we could tell). That said, could I gather some advice:

    1) Given the choice, is an entry -level Cobalt better than a non-entry Regal 2100 (Regal vs. Cobalt question as well)
    2) When purchasing a boat, how much room, generally, do I have to negotiate with the dealer. Is there much to deal with, like a car. This is my first boat purchase and any help is strongly appreciated!

    Thank you,
    Stephen


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    Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

    A cobalt is the better boat. There is nothing wrong with Regals and we looked at them before buying our cobalt. But between the 2, go with the cobalt. Do make sure you are comparing apples to apples. Same or similar power plant, trailer, etc.

    Even if the cobalt were more, and it probably is, it's worth it in my opinion.
    James
    2002 Cobalt 226 with VP 8.1GI

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    • #3
      Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

      You don't state where you are and whether or not there are other dealers within driving distance to use as both price comparison and leverage. As for boats, you are comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the Regal is a very nice boat, but Cobalt is still a notch higher, IMHO. Granted, you will hear someone shortly who will defend Regal boats as being equal, just the same. Either way, you have to treat this like an auto purchase, whereby you shop around for comparison and leverage out your best deal, with the add-ons, free maintenance visits, and extras. It is still a buyer's market, not a seller's, no matter what anyone tells you.

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      • #4
        Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

        I am in Alabama and there are two dealers on the way to the lake where we will keep the boat in dry-storage. The dealer we are talking with was someone who was referred to us that I trust. So far he has been extremely helpful (as he should be). However, I think I will take your advice and stop by the other dealer for some comparison on the Cobalt. My price range has continued to move up as I have become more educated about the boat options, but we are now at my "limit", at least from a mental health concern. I don't want to spend so much that I don't enjoy it.

        With that said, some of the features I am getting on the Regal were putting the MSRP around $46,000 but the sales price at $40,000. I was getting carpet, premium sound system, tiki wood looking platform, and wrap around arena seating. Regular bimini top. That was the Regal 2100.

        On the Cobalt, I get the carpet and a great looking boat, basically the same engine but I lose some of the nice wood grain look on the dash board. That price was around $38 to $39K. I just wondering about getting the bottom of the line in a boat series. I am not sure what the MSRP would be on the Cobalt. He just wanted me to see if since I would be spending around $40,000 anyway.

        Stephen

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        • #5
          Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

          Good for you, checking out the other dealer. Remember, there are other options you can also take. I would suggest you ask about last year's models, and what discounts are available. If they don't have any from last year, you can state that you will go online to check other dealers. Then watch how fast they offer to do that for you. Bottom line, they want your business, since it isn't just the original sale. They want your future sales and service business, and any referral you can offer. The boat business is a tough business to stay in, unless you are good with your customers.

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          • #6
            Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

            Cobalt really doesn't have a bottom of the line in their boat. the 200 is their entry level, but it is not a stripped down version. Wood trim is nice, but I would rather have aluminum or SS as it is more durable. You can get the teak platform pad from seadek for 200-300. Premium sound isn't much and can be added after the fact as well.

            Cobalt designs great hulls and builds awesome boats. Even if you have to pass on a few upgrades they can be added later, but you can't change hulls later without buying a new boat.
            James
            2002 Cobalt 226 with VP 8.1GI

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            • #7
              Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

              Meh...just go buy two Bayliner Capris for the same amount of money. Use one for a couple of years til it blows up or rots out from under you, then use the other one. That way, you have a brand new boat, then in a couple of years, you get to have that brand new boat feeling again!

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              • #8
                Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                Seems Cobalt gets all the votes in this case....even if it is the entry-level model.

                This being my first boat purchase I hope you can understand the hesitation. Throwing around $40,000 isn't something I want to do with out research, so I really appreciate the feedback and please keep them coming.

                I think my "concern" on getting an entry level Cobalt have at least been answered. I just don't want to be in a situation where, yeah, I bought a Cobalt, but no features, but hey, I got the name. Especially if I went with just another good brand and got a few upgrades. Thanks again.

                Stephen

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                • #9
                  Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                  I agree, Cobalt really doesn't have a low end anything. I own a 2010 Cobalt 230 and am nothing but pleased with the boat. I also toured the Cobalt factory in Neodesha, KS and I can say that they put just as much attention to detail in the 200 as they do on all their other boats.
                  2010 Cobalt 230
                  Volvo Penta 5.7 GI DP

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                    Hell, i started with the Bayliner idea, then i started learning a lot more.....Now I at least know that I don't want a Bayliner.. :-)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                      Originally posted by smdavis1004 View Post
                      Seems Cobalt gets all the votes in this case....even if it is the entry-level model.

                      This being my first boat purchase I hope you can understand the hesitation. Throwing around $40,000 isn't something I want to do with out research, so I really appreciate the feedback and please keep them coming.

                      I think my "concern" on getting an entry level Cobalt have at least been answered. I just don't want to be in a situation where, yeah, I bought a Cobalt, but no features, but hey, I got the name. Especially if I went with just another good brand and got a few upgrades. Thanks again.

                      Stephen
                      Stephen, Cobalt has no entry level boat. But whether you find a great deal on a 2011 or 2010 model, you can always add more features as time goes by. You can't add on a better hull, stronger design, or better resale valued boat. Still, for your best bang on the Cobalt, you need to research prior year unsold models. You may find a super deal on an even larger boat packaged for someone who failed to pick up on the delivery. A good dealer will check this avenue out for you, but make calls to any dealer within a few hundred miles on your own.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                        I recently looked at both boats and ended up buying the Regal. Both are great boats. Make sure and test ride both, for me there was very little difference in ride, acceleration, fit and finish and the cabin layout fit me better for what I wanted to use it for. Can't speak for Cobalt but after two months of owning the Regal I noticed couple of snaps came apart in my carpeting. After a call to the factory they had a mechanic installing new carpeting in my driveway, while there he serviced it for free. The service I received was by far the best I ever experienced in 20 years of owning different boats. Make sure you test ride them both before you make a decision. good luck.

                        P/S- adding features at later date is not as cheep as one thinks, the 2K difference in price could quickly disappear. Just something else to think about.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                          I have not yet had the opportunity to test drive them and will hope to do so in about a week. I am reading great responses for both boats so in the end it doesn't appear I could go wrong. Although I know people are saying there are no entry level boats for Cobalt, I seem to be having a hard time paying that amount for the "entry level". Thank you for sharing your story about the Regal.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                            You didn't say where you were in Alabama, but if it were easy for you to get to Atlanta, I would check one of the newer Cobalts listed on Craigs list for Atlanta. Really some nice boats and a couple that are almost new at heavily discounted prices. See Link http://atlanta.craigslist.org/search...inAsk=&maxAsk=

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                            • #15
                              Re: Cobalt vs Regal - New Boat Purchase - Need a little advice

                              Not a bad position to be in - having to chose between a Cobalt or Regal!! Two very nice, very well made brands. Ironic in a way, the admiral and I were looking for a Cobalt this year at the boat show. Then we looked at a Regal 2100 (sounds exactly like the one you are talking about with arena seating and all). We both REALLY liked it and we came close to doing a deal. But, in the end, we elected to just keep the boat we have for a while longer, which we are totally satisfied with. Cobalt is top tier no question but, IMHO Regal isn't too far behind. And, while it was my intent to go with a Cobalt, I would have gone with the Regal simply because I was getting more boat (size wise) for the buck without giving up too much, if anything, in the way of quality. Good luck with whichever you chose and I am sure you are going to thoroughly enjoy either one!
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                              Same Admiral since 1973
                              2011 Chaparral 206SSI, 5.0L VP GXI SX, 270HP
                              2013 Ford 150 Platinum Super Crew, Eco Boost
                              2013 Infiniti G-37

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