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  • Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

    Hey guys/girls looking at getting my first boat. I have had a jet-ski for two seasons now and it was a great starter for learning the ways of boating but I think its time to upgrade. I am looking into a bowrider as a couple people pointed me in that direction in my first post. My question is can a bowrider potentially be used in the ocean on calm days? I thought I read somewhere that you can get a cover to put over the front to stop water from coming in...is this true? Boat will mainly be used in lakes/ponds for skiing/tubing but also the occasional Long Island sound and open ocean in Rhode Island. Thanks for the help...it is definitely appreciated.


  • #2
    Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

    Watch the weather forecast, and watch for the wind picking up. You can get a bow cover that will keep some of the water out of the cockpit.
    The wetter, the better.

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    • #3
      Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

      Depends on the size and design of the bowrider. Here is another thread on open bow choices for saltwater -

      http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=47821

      Kelly Cook

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      • #4
        Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

        Any boat will get you in trouble if you don't respect it's limitations and the weather. After nearly 70 years in boats, I have been in trouble a few times. It was never the fault of the boat.

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        • #5
          Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

          yes you can .... just make sure your bilge pump works .....
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          • #6
            Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

            Sure, just use some common sense and watch the weather.
            Also, look at all the center console boats out there.
            A good bilge pump, some proper driving and reliable engine is also important.
            It depends on the size of the boat too. A good bow cover will help, so will making sure all floor hatches are closed and sealed well up front. Many bow riders have crude seats that cover open areas in the deck out front that can take on water or worse, go flying in heavy seas. I saw one guy take a wave over the bow and get a seat in the face right over the windshield. The water washed the cushions right away as it came in. The boat had flotation so it stayed afloat and the bilge pumps did eventually pump it all out, but I think he lost a few cushions. For the ocean, I prefer a self bailing deck myself, but have taken my trihull out on calm days. Getting past the breakers is the worst part.

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            • #7
              Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

              Originally posted by imported_reelfishin View Post
              Sure, just use some common sense and watch the weather.
              Also, look at all the center console boats out there.
              A good bilge pump, some proper driving and reliable engine is also important.
              I'd also say a good VHF radio just in case you ever do get into trouble on open ocean. I personally don't go out on large bodies of water without one. No oceans near where I am but Lake Winnipeg and Lake Manitoba are some of the largest lakes on North America and can go from calm to very rough in no time. A good VHF radio affords you a little peace of mind that somebody might be on the way if it really comes down to it.

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              • #8
                Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                Bow Riders do not routinely take water over the bow, as some previous posters hinted. A bow rider is very similar in design to a center console (both have open bows), and many ocean going boats are of center console design. Bowriders are as inherently safe as cuddy's or center consoles of the same size. You bowriding passengers get a bit more spray, and get bounced around a bit, but that is all. Your bowriding passengers will also retreat to the rear, if it gets too bouncy. A canvass cover will keep the spray down, but I would only use one in the winter to keep the cold out.

                Bowriders are perfectly fine in the ocean, bay or lake. If you think that you are safe in a cuddy, with waves breaking over the bow, you are sadly mistaken. If you are taking water over the bow in any boat style, you are in deep dung.

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                • #9
                  Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                  i will disagre

                  If you look at studlys boat is has a nice BOW FLARE which keeps the water away as well as provide more lift when its pushing into a wave

                  A normal bow rider which are really lake boats does NOT have this feature


                  I run a 19' cuddy and between the waves and the big boat wakes in this area(no wake zones are the worse) keeping a dry bow is not gonna happen with a couple of passangers sitting up front


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                  • #10
                    Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                    Originally posted by Chris1956 View Post
                    Bowriders are perfectly fine in the ocean, bay or lake.
                    Taking any boat out in the Ocean that has low freeboard and doesn't have a self draining cockpit is asking for problems. Relying on a bilge pump is just that, a pump to clear the bilge. A bildge pump is not going to do you much good when you stuff a wave and end up with 6Ē of standing water in the cockpit. If you take water over the bow on a boat like this how do you think a bow rider fair?

                    If you think that you are safe in a cuddy, with waves breaking over the bow, you are sadly mistaken. If you are taking water over the bow in any boat style, you are in deep dung.
                    I must be sadly mistaken because I take water over my bow on the regular basis and donít think anything of it. Itís expected from time to time when you run the ocean.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                      i have a 86 17ft four winns bowrider, and never have any problems with water or spray comming in the boat. it's all in the design of the hull. my hull is very deep and cuts waves. Even with two adults on the front i have no problems. I've taken my bost in the ocean many times with no problems.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                        Actually, "cutting waves" is what will put water into the boat. To stay dry the boat needs to ride on top, not cut deeply into waves. Though obviously the ride will suffer! Or just get a closed deck like dingbat's deal.

                        Kelly

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                          Any boat can be used safely or unsafely depending on the water and the operator. An open bow being used safely can be just as safe as a cuddy as long as you pay attention to the waves and weather.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                            I had a 21ft Winner years ago and took it out in some rough water. The boat had a nice cuddy cabin up front and I took a pretty big wave over the bow and the water fell off the sides. (big swell came up out of nowhere) Let me tell you this.... it was A LOT of water. If I was in a bowrider, I would have swamped the boat and maybe even sunk it. Scared the poop outta me.

                            Now, I wouldn't say that you can't or shouldn't take a bowrider out in the ocean, but personally I just think a closed bow is MUCH safer.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Can a bowrider be used on the ocean on calm days?

                              Originally posted by tommays View Post
                              i will disagre

                              If you look at studlys boat is has a nice BOW FLARE which keeps the water away as well as provide more lift when its pushing into a wave

                              A normal bow rider which are really lake boats does NOT have this feature


                              I run a 19' cuddy and between the waves and the big boat wakes in this area(no wake zones are the worse) keeping a dry bow is not gonna happen with a couple of passangers sitting up front


                              Tommays

                              I fish a bit on a river bar which meet's the ocean and sometime's just fishing the bow does dip into a 4-5' rolling swell. Not much water get's in, she generally pop's right out. My temp solution was to take the kid's tube inflated stuff it in the bow and put the bow cover on, work's perfect and the tube provide's plenty of support if i ever miss a big one.

                              Where i live thing's can get out of hand quickly, i would never run with people in the bow on the ocean
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