busy, small launch right away - ?

rderenzy

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I've been meaning to post this, read a ton of threads, none really answer my question or go back and forth on it

Here is my situation.
Its a busy, but small launch area.
typical oval launch drive, boat line is single lane, w/ trees - no way to get around, pass or "cut"
single dock, can use both sides

no courtesy dock

my question is who has the right-away - launchers or loaders.
seems like it has to be launchers, just because you can't pass - if there is 6 boats waiting in line, and I steal a dock side to get my trailer - I'm stuck behind 6 ppl, slowing them down further (now they only have 1 side). I guess I COULD grab a dock side, run up, grab my truck and back it down to the dock - but that has to be frown upon right? otherwise I have to wait for the line to be clear - which 6 boats could take 40 min or more
and even then, I grab a dock side, go up to get the truck, then 3 more trucks pull in and jump me in line.

LOL
not really sure whats expected here
thoughts on this?
 

Maclin

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I would think everyone has to go by the position in the line to the ramp, only thing that makes sense. Boats needing to load back on would be in a holding pattern until their rig shows up at the ramp. Same if solo, just one more step in the workflow, park boat then get the rig in line. If no room at the dock then holding pattern until a spot at the dock opens up. Without an official traffic director it can get a little dicey, especially with all the me-firsts out there wherever you go. Those with no patience or awareness of the situation soon make themselves known. Some can learn and adapt, some just won't.

Have you looked for any more launches close by? Ask around, may get a nice surprise.
 

ahicks

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Yup, if you want to retrieve with guys trying to launch, you need to get your trailer in line...

Not sure what you would/should do when you're by yourself, with no courtesy dock available.
 

ski2rule

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Avoid the busy times or be there with a buddy. When I am alone I beach my boat, get my rig, and line up. Taking up dock space and blocking a lane would be bad etiquette.
 

oldjeep

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Every where we go the truck/ trailer position determines who gets the launch. Is there somewhere to beach boat?
 

rderenzy

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fought some huge lines yesterday. had about 6-7 boats trying to get out, and have about 4 ppl trying to get in.
looked like 4 boats "beached it" next to the docks to not take them, got out (like you guys said) and got their trailer in line.
but that forces someone to anchor the boat, jump out - and it wans't workin well because their ass end was moving towards the docked boats.

but, once the trailer arrived for pickup, they would push their boats sideways to the dock - but I did see some people steal the dock (probably not knowing) and drove their boat right up and stole it, even though the trailer was next in line - just jackknifed the trailer sideways and got his boat, lol.
it was a mess. the beach area isn't very well, but I think that's correct in what you have to do, beach and maybe push to the dock when ready, just to save your spot in line.

later while waiting there was a guy puling out his boat, so one dock open...a boat took it...but the guy next in line was trying to launch, so then his trialer went behind the launcher, and had to wait, even though his boat was at the dock ready to go, but had to wait for the launcher, and a free dock space

all in all it wasn't too bad
 

Fed

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Get your launch ramp up in google maps & put up a link so we can see what the problems are.
Whoever has their rig parked on the ramp wins, if I'm on the ramp and I'm 'blocked' I simply get out of the car, find a comfortable spot to sit then roll a smoke.
 

rderenzy

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Get your launch ramp up in google maps & put up a link so we can see what the problems are.
Whoever has their rig parked on the ramp wins, if I'm on the ramp and I'm 'blocked' I simply get out of the car, find a comfortable spot to sit then roll a smoke.

ahaha I like your style. I just don't think it would fly, because if I steal that dock, and 10 ppl in line launching, they can then only use one lane. and will take me forever to get out, I'd roll a full carton.
think of your advice, and two ppl trying to leave the dock take both dock spots, then the line can't move at all :)
 

Fed

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Yes it's similar to where I launch but I have a longer dock to play on.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.9759933,151.0197532,135m/data=!3m1!1e3
I usually tie up at the end of the dock then go & get the trailer, wait in line until I finally get my trailer onto the ramp.
After that it's only a matter of walking the boat to the trailer even if that means walking it around a boat parked on the side of the dock, if the parked boat has no one attending it then it's time to roll a smoke and wait for the fireworks.
If there's someone with the parked boat I'd ask them if they're coming, going or parked there for the day, that usually gets a rise out of them.
 

southkogs

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I do a lot of solo launching and retrieving. In our lakes, you typically can't (or at least shouldn't) beach and we only have one dock. About the only way you can do it is to tie up, go grab the truck and get in line.

Folks get it. No one gets mad that I have seen.
 

DeepCMark58A

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I work for the DNR in the spring during our brush fire season. We preposition in different areas so our response times are faster. One of my favorite places to stage is at a county park in the boat landing lot. I park with a good vantage point and we watch people pull in and set an over under on how many backing attempts to successfully launch the boat, or you can make a bet on if there will be some event that will be humorous to everyone except the boat owner.

I am very fortunate to live in Central Minnesota with lakes close by, if one landing or lake looks busy I can head to another lake and be there in 10 minutes or so.
 

jkust

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Your description is almost every boat access I used to use when I was a trailer boater except that there was almost never an actual courtesy dock and the launch dock was mostly one sided to make it even worse. I think the correct term is 'Thunder Dome'.
 
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