1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

dorsett59

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Thanks everyone, for your help up to this point.
The story so far-
1979 Mercury Mariner 70hp 3 cyl 2 cycle. Runs fine at spring test. Take it out on the water, and the engine does not get over 3000 rpm.
Bring it back in. Replaced carb needle and seat (was leaking gas when priming), replaced fuel pump diaphragm (was crunchy), replaced fuel line and primer bulb (was also kinda crunchy). Checked out all the electrical checks in the Seloc manual. Stator tested all in spec. Trigger was all in spec. Switchbox was all in spec. Spark plugs were pristine.

Took it out again. Same problem (but at least it stared easier, and ran better up to 3100 rpm. Adjusted timing on the lake, checked spark and fuel pressure. Both good.

Brought it back in. Now I'm looking at the troubleshooting sheets from CDI Electronics. Recommended replacing the rectifier (replaced with the Radio Shack one, cheap fix). Tested the engine. Started up great. Checked voltage while running across stator blue (low speed) to engine ground. Started off okay, had a dip around 1200-1500 rpm, then came up nicely.
Checked voltage while running across stator red (high speed) to engine ground. Nada. If anything, it was negative voltage.
So, aside from dropping more cash for a stator that was just replaced two years ago, what troubleshooting can I do on the stator to determine if it IS the stator, as opposed to a trigger, issue?
Thank you
 

Georgesalmon

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Is this boat/motor new to you? Did it ever run good? If the motor seems to have good power at 3100 it might just be the prop.
 

dorsett59

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Stator ohm readings
Blue-red: 6.5kO
Blue-yellow: open
Red-yellow: open
Blue-frame: open
Red-frame: open
 

dorsett59

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Ran fine last year, up to 5300 rpm.
Only thing that happened between last year and this spring was taking the boat to a shop to have the bottom end sealed up and new water pump impeller installed.
 

Faztbullet

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Should read from red & blue to engine ground, blue should read 5800-7000ohms and red to ground 135-165....this will verify if stator is bad.
 

dorsett59

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Ohm readings are both good (blue-ground: 6230 ohms, red-ground: 145.2 ohm), but using VMA test, the high speed stator produces zero voltage.
So, aside from replacing the stator, are there any other tests I can do?
 

CharlieB

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

VMA or DVA?

How did you test the stator, while connected to the switchbox or dis-connected?
 

dorsett59

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Re: 1979 70 hp 3 cyl- no voltage high speed stator

Tested ohm with digital multimeter, both connected to the switchbox and removed from the engine entirely. Both sets of readings were in spec.

Tested voltage with a VMA while the engine was running between idle and 3000 rpm. Got zero voltage across red stator/switchbox to engine ground.
 
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