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  • gimbal bearing install

    hi i have a 1992 rinker with a 3.0 mercruiser and a alpha one gen 2 drive. i am doing a bellows replacement and got the transom seal kit that came with a gimbal bearing. i do not have the special tool to install this bearing i was wondering if anyone has installed one of these bearing without the special tool and if so how did you do it. thanks for any and all advise
    1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
    1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner


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    Re: gimbal bearing install

    The main issue is contacting only the outer housing of the bearing with the driver so you don't damage the bearing itself. I made a tool out of hardwood plywood and a big piece of oak to hit with a big hammer. I'm a furniture maker, so I just had them laying around. Others have made tools out of heavy PVC pipe in the right diameters. One thing that is supposed to help a lot is to put the bearing in the freezer overnight prior to installation. It shrinks a bit and is a lot easier to get in the housing. I wish I had heard this before I tried it Be sure to line up the grease slot in the bearing (if so equipped) with the hole in the housing. You can't turn it once it's in there
    1987 Four Winns 160 Freedom, Mercruiser 3.0 Alpha 1
    s/n 0b515153 engine
    s/n 0b593469 drive

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    • #3
      Re: gimbal bearing install

      Yeah, I used a 1 and 1/2 foot piece of 3" Schedule 40 PVC, made sure the cut end was perfectly flat and square, and held a piece of 2x6 flush against it and tapped it in with a 5 lb. sledge. You will know when it is all the way in, your hits will feel different. Stop and check every few taps to make sure it is going in straight, so take your time, don't be in a hurry, especially if this is the first time doing it. I also put mine if the freezer for about a week, but I'm not sure it made any difference, it didn't just pop in like some have said. If you recently got your bearing, it is probably the new Permaseal bearing Merc is putting out. I did mine a year ago and that's what came in my kit. If so, then you don't have to worry about the grease hole lining up. Good luck!
      1989 Sea Ray 180
      Mercruiser 4.3 Alpha 1
      1995 & 1996 Yamaha Waventure 701 & 1100
      Money's getting tight, kids' inheritence almost gone!

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      • #4
        Re: gimbal bearing install

        thanks for the awesome info i will try the pvc pipe tool. i was hoping that one of the bearing installers we have at work(i work at a toyota dealership as a parts advisor) was going to work but everything set against the inner race and i assumed that hitting that part of the bearing would cause some damage. thanks again for the reply.
        1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
        1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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        • #5
          Re: gimbal bearing install

          outer race ONLY, hit the shield or the inner and it`s now junk.
          NO PERSONAL QUESTIONS, THIS IS WHAT THE FORUM IS FOR.

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          • #6
            Re: gimbal bearing install

            so i tried to free the gimbal bearing from the transom housing last night went to autozone and rented a bearing puller. i must have whacked that thing for 45 minutes and it doesnt seem to be moving does anytone have any suggestions. i have a small propane torch and if i were to use heat what should i heat up the old gimbal bearing or the housing, or should i not use heat.
            1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
            1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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            • #7
              Re: gimbal bearing install

              Hereís the bearing install tool I used to hammer my gimbal bearing back in. I believe my dad picked it up from Harbor Freight for about $6.00 or so. I used a 5lb slide hammer to remove mine. The first night I had the slide hammer I tried to pull the bearing and beat on it until my arms were soar, It wasnít budging. I sprayed some penetrating oil (liquid wrench) around it and let it sit over night. The next day I tried again and thought it was still not going to budge, then after about 25 blows or so it moved. From there it took about 10 more blows and it was out.

              Good luck!

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              • #8
                Re: gimbal bearing install

                i had to use heat on my 1974 bayliner mutiny boat to get it out and just heated the ally housing up with a small blow torch for 2 to 3 minutes whilst puller was still attached.it did work and got it half out in seconds reheated and finally got it all out.i believe if you type in ;defeated !!!!! with the exclamation marks in the search up top theres some good ideas in there.i was using the puller and took a big chunk of skin off palm of hand then the blow torch came out.was still looking at hand 6 weeks later with a reminder if it dont come out again the blow torch will be out once again.would reccommend adequate ventilation and a friend will make light work of removing stubborn bearings.here ya go;http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....light=defeated!!!!!

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                • #9
                  Re: gimbal bearing install

                  Ditch the slide hammer and the heat... use the above link and you will be able to pull any bearing out You are going to need the alignment bar... might as well go ahead and get the bearing driver too. They are super-cheap off ebay. Search "mercruiser alignment tool" or "mercruiser bearing tool" That way you will have the right tools for the job... and it will be a breeze next time.
                  Toy - 2001 Glastron GX185, 4.3 Alpha One
                  Tow rig - 2013 Silverado 2500HD Duramax

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                  • #10
                    Re: gimbal bearing install

                    Thanks all for the wonderful info has helped alot.
                    well update i must have had some intesne beer gogles on because went out the nest day after work and had the bearing out in ten whackes. so good news. i ended up making my own bearing installer and man was that tedious work one hit at a time and check bearing to make sure it was going in straight. took about 30 minutes but everything went smoothly with that. got all the bellows hooked up glued and clamped but now i tried to but outdrive back on and got it to the point there was only a inch or two before it was all together and it would not budge any further tried to rotate shaft to align splines but still nothing. after about a hour of just me pushing and shoving and what not dicided to take drive all the way off to start again and rip. i ripped the body gasket between bell housing and stern drive. had to oder new one but in the mean time does anyone have any tips to get that thing back on.
                    1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
                    1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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                    • #11
                      Re: gimbal bearing install

                      Glad to hear you got your bearing out. Youíre moving a lot faster than I am. I was able to get the bellows on last night, inserting the shift cable through that little hole on the shift boot was crazy.

                      How did you install the u-joint bellow sleeve in the bell housing end? Thatís all I have left to do on the bellows before moving on the alignment and re-installing the outdrive. I saw your post on the alignment tool, Iím with you on that one. You wouldnít think there would be any alignment needed but all the advise Iíve received here says itís an important step you donít want to skip. I ordered a alignment tool from eBay for around $40 with shipping. Another unexpected cost I didnít need but seemed necessary. Hopefully youíll get some quick feedback on installing the drive cause I have a feeling Iíll be needing it as well.

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                      • #12
                        Re: gimbal bearing install

                        well you have to pull the bellow into the bell housing if you look in thereyou will see a groove in the bell housing and a lip that is on the bellow you have to pull that bellow into the bell housing and get that lip to set into that groove. with a little fanagling i was able to get it in there pretty easily. then you take that metal ring and press it onto the inside of the bellow in the bell housing. now my question is there is a big black oring that i can't remember taking out but when i looked into my old parts bag i saw it there. from all the pictures i have seen online that seems to go into the bell housing up against that metal ring. can anyone confirm that.

                        2? i have a 3.0l is there any adjustment on there if the alignment is out side to side or is that impossible because of the way the motor mounts to the tansom and to the big u shaped motor mount in front?
                        3? didn't catch the part in the manual where it says to cut hose to 13 inches but have checked hose in a couple different positions and havn't found anywhere where it was kinking can anyone tell me if the bell housing needs to come off and this fixed or is the 3/4 inch going to make that much of a difference.
                        1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
                        1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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                        • #13
                          Re: gimbal bearing install

                          Did you have much trouble pushing the retainer sleeve in? Thatís where I was having a problem. The large O-ring I believe youíre referring to does go into the bell housing, Most post Iíve read recommend you glue it into place with bellows adhesive so it will stay put while you install the drive. Check this tread out it may help, start from Fishermarkís comments down:

                          http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....ive+shaft+seal

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                          • #14
                            Re: gimbal bearing install

                            i actually pushed that retainer ringin with my hands i pushed really hard and it seems seated i will doulbe check myself that or the fact i didnt glue that ring in place might be the reason i couldnt get the drive all the way on. going to busted out the serlock holmes hat tonight and let you know what i find. by the way jason thanks for postiong the thread it is reasuring that my research was correct going to recheck that ring and seal. i think we may be on to something here
                            1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
                            1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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                            • #15
                              Re: gimbal bearing install

                              well update tonight double check that the retainer ring is install all the way so not a problem there still wondering if that big oring might have been the cause of the drive not going all the way on. it looks like you can put this oring on drive. would it be better if i glued into bell housing or install drive with it on drive into bell housing?
                              1992 rinker 181 3.0l mercruiser first boat
                              1999 yamaha gp760 waverunner

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