sorry Bob, thought I had listed the model number but here it is. J90TLCUR. Pretty sure the thermostat thing is my issue because there was water in the opening leading into the cylinder on the cool side but no water on the hot side in there. I will start by replacing the t-stats and gaskets and cleaning up the housing and clearing the port. If this doesn't solve my issue i will look further into your ideas. thank you one and all. I am heading off for a trip soon not to be back till early June sometime so you may or may not get an update from me till then. Boating season for me won't start until I return sadly.Thanks again everyone, all your input is invaluable to a guy like me.