150 Johnson bang or skip in mototr when getting on plane

ratblock

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I have my 21' walk around for sale and just took it out for a sea trial. It has a 2000 150 Johnson 2 stroke. Last season I had the lower unit looked over, new cables installed, shifter rod adjusted, new zinc and pressure tested. The motor runs great and all was fine when I got on plane the first time but each time after just as the boat would level out the engine would make a quick bang that you could feel thru the entire boat. After it was on plane it cruised just fine. This was the first time I has it out since last year when the repairs were made. I have the boat sold but it is contingent on what the bang is. Any ideas?
 

71Windsor

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Re: 150 Johnson bang or skip in mototr when getting on plane

when you feel that does it feel like you lose power at all? does the forward momentum of the boat feel like it makes a sudden stop similar to if you miss a gear on a manual vehicle?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 150 Johnson bang or skip in mototr when getting on plane

Either the lower unit shift rod has been turned out of adjustment (the measurement is critical), OR the shift cable is not adjusted/centered properly. Another member will jump in here with that measurement hopefully as I do not have it.

(Centering Shift Cable)
(J. Reeves)

When all is as it should be, the proper method to adjust the shift cable is to disconnect the cable from the engine. Move the shift linkage on the engine to find the center of the play in neutral, and when found, leave it centered.

Now, grab the end of the shift cable sleeve, push and pull it to find the center of the play there, and center that play.

Adjust the trunion on the threaded portion of the shift cable so that the centered play of the cable lines up with the centered play of the engine's shift linkage. Install and lock the shift cable with the retaining clamp in that position. That's it.

(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)
(J. Reeves)

This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".

Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.

When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.

The lobes of the dog and gears are precisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are precisely machined with sharp angles!

Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those precisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.

Some boaters with manual shift engines have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those precisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

ratblock

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Re: 150 Johnson bang or skip in mototr when getting on plane

Guys, thanks for the feed back. I am taking it to my mechanic, he is going to adjust the cables during a sea trial. He seems to think that will take care of it. He said the shifter dog had looked good when the lower unit was apart. I will report the results after the adjustments. Thanks again.
 

ratblock

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Re: 150 Johnson bang or skip in mototr when getting on plane

After a simple adjustment of the throttle cable the boat is fixed. Adjustment took all of 5 minutes and the boat performed flawlessly during a sea trial. Now I hate to see it go!
 
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