1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

[17ft'r]

Hi all, I have the above motor with the habit of (poping) out of gear.
I have above average (mechanical abilities) and no brains.
My question is: Can a "shade tree" mechanic change one of these "clutch dogs" without making things worse?

Thanks in advance,

17ft'r

 

[bonz_d]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

I believe so. The hard part will be finding a good affordable part to replace it with.

 

[17ft'r]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

So it seems there is more than 1 manufacture of these parts and thats the problem.
Sounds like it might be "hard schools of knocks" again. That seems to be the way I end up learning.

Thanks for the info, I'll go from hear.

17ft'r

 

[kfa4303]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

Sure you can easily replace it yourself, once you find the part. You simply open the gearcase, remove the gears, slide off the old one and slide on the new one and put it back together. You'll probably need to reseal the lower unit while you're at it as well. You can get a reseal kit right here at iboats for about $25. You 'll also need some 3M 847 gasket sealant, which you may have to order online. The dog itself can be found on sites like ebay.com, marineengine.com, and/or aomcio.org. Here are some handy links.

Maintaining Johnson E & FD Serie

http://forums.iboats.com/johnson-evinrude-outboards/fastwin-lower-unit-seal-faq-277190.html

 

[82rude]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

if you have a local brp dealer just order the part from there.if you can get the clutch dog for a 56 30 hp johnson from brp still im sure you can get your year.part number 305191 her,s an example http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_search.php?part_num=305191&submit=Go

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

It would be cheaper to take the dog and gear to a machine shop and have them re-cut.

 

[bonz_d]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

Another alternative which I did is to look for a parts motor with a good lower unit. When I did it I believe I only paid $50.00 for the whole motor, removed the lower and then sold the rest to someone else for $25.00.

 

[kbait]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

I'd pull apart and inspect the forward gear/clutch dog interface. If the dog 'ears' are rounded at the corners, and the forward gear is just slightly worn, a new clutch dog will likely do the trick. If the 'ears' that interface the reverse gear (on current clutch dog) look pristine, you can just flip the dog and then you'll have a 'new' dog for forward. You don't need the perfect interface on reverse, as you don't apply nearly as much force and it likely won't 'pop' out of reverse. I've done this cheap fix many times on 5.5 - 25hp J/E's w/successful results. The key is having a forward gear that isn't too gummed-up.

Good luck!

 

[geoffwga1]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

Also if you have a Dremmel or an air grinder you can redress the forward gear yourself if the dog is not too far gone,just grind it till the corners are sharp again and undercut them slightly,take care and don't overheat it and lose the temper.I've done this a couple of times and everything is still working.

 

[17ft'r]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

Thanks for the ideas, I'll be sending an update when I get things going.

Again, thanks,

17ft'r

 

[17ft'r]

Re: 1963 18 hp johnson outboard "clutch dog"

Not a bad idea, thanks

17ft'r