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How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

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  • How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

    I brought a 88 Johnson, the guy said it was a 115 but Johnson didn't make a 115 that year so I dunno. I have the engine wired however I don't know what to do with the tilt.

    This guy has a separate switch for the tilt I think it's a 3way switch. I figure out the power (up/down) and ground cables. However I have another 2 cables that are separate from the 3 cable wire that I don't know where it goes. There is also an external solenoid that was used in the setup before which I have no idea how to hook it up. The switch itself has 3 long wires.

    I know the thick cable is the power but what about the 2 thin cables?
    Thanks for any help anyone can provide.


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    Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

    pictures would help

    they had 2 wires setups and three wires setups....

    you are not sure of the year..( whats the model number on the tag?)

    so it is going to be hard to answer....plus there are wires to trim imdicators that dont power the unit up or down...

    I have a 1988 70 hp and think they used the same trim unit for my 70 as they did for many V4s.

    two wires green and blue run to the unit...

    bob

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    • #3
      Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

      Originally posted by bob johnson View Post
      pictures would help

      they had 2 wires setups and three wires setups....

      you are not sure of the year..( whats the model number on the tag?)

      so it is going to be hard to answer....plus there are wires to trim imdicators that dont power the unit up or down...

      I have a 1988 70 hp and think they used the same trim unit for my 70 as they did for many V4s.

      two wires green and blue run to the unit...

      bob
      I took some pictures. Also the serial number is: J1148804
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      Thanks for any help.

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        Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

        Originally posted by simplesolid View Post
        I took some pictures. Also the serial number is: J1148804
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        Thanks for any help.

        the serial number doesnt do us any good...we need the model number.. and the pictures are upside down....??????????????

        cant help you like that....once you right the pictures you could tell us what you are taking a picture of.....or add some text to the picture...

        bob

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        • #5
          Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115

          Originally posted by bob johnson View Post
          the serial number doesnt do us any good...we need the model number.. and the pictures are upside down....??????????????

          cant help you like that....once you right the pictures you could tell us what you are taking a picture of.....or add some text to the picture...

          bob

          Funny I have no idea why the pictures uploaded upside down, they are right side up on my computer. I'll try to send them again.

          I found out that they 2 thin wires are for the trim indicator. So now I just need to figure out how to connect the 3 way switch and the 3 wires (up/down/ground) into the solenoid.

          I'll add text to the pics and reupload them soon.

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          • #6
            Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

            Here is the picture hopefully right side up. I added some text to it as well.

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            The model number is: 16AHCXKWB - I searched google for this, but the only result was a seadrive 1.6L but mine is not a seadrive, well unless it was converted.
            Thanks for your time.

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            • #7
              Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

              Joe Reeves answered a question like this last week, hopefully he will chime in and give you the diagram for what you are trying to do. Good luck

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              • #8
                Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                OMC used a single solenoid in their 3-wire trim system. The solenoid was used to control the trim motor "up" movement only. That 3 wire motor/system was used until midway through the 1981 model year. At that point, the motor changed to a 2 wire system and the solenoid was replaced by solid state relays. You may find some appropriate wiring diagrams in the first thread or two at the top of the first page of this form.

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                • #9
                  Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                  Originally posted by emdsapmgr View Post
                  OMC used a single solenoid in their 3-wire trim system. The solenoid was used to control the trim motor "up" movement only. That 3 wire motor/system was used until midway through the 1981 model year. At that point, the motor changed to a 2 wire system and the solenoid was replaced by solid state relays. You may find some appropriate wiring diagrams in the first thread or two at the top of the first page of this form.
                  Thanks, The original wiring diagram doesn't help much. The original switch was built into the control box. On this outboard the trim control was broken and was replaced by an external 3 way switch.

                  I'll look again at the diagrams to see if I missed something.

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                    Something strange happened while I was trying to figure out how to wire the tilt and trim with the 3 way switch.
                    Whenever I plug the 'up' positive cable into the solenoid it goes down.

                    If I plug it straight into the battery it goes up. What can cause this?

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                    • #11
                      Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                      well like someone has mentioned there was no 115 hp made in 1988...and since your TRIM solenoid doesnt look anything like the units made in 1988...and since you havent posted a model number that corresponds to an OMC outboard motor...we are left wondering what we are workign with...

                      since there are several ways to activate a tilt and trim unit....it could have very well been gerry rigged by a previous owner.

                      got a picture of the motor? and look up that MODEL number. in the early 890s and later they had a pattern to the model numbers to make it easily discernable from other years....like J115SLCCM as an example



                      bob

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                      • #12
                        Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                        Originally posted by bob johnson View Post
                        well like someone has mentioned there was no 115 hp made in 1988...and since your TRIM solenoid doesnt look anything like the units made in 1988...and since you havent posted a model number that corresponds to an OMC outboard motor...we are left wondering what we are workign with...

                        since there are several ways to activate a tilt and trim unit....it could have very well been gerry rigged by a previous owner.

                        got a picture of the motor? and look up that MODEL number. in the early 890s and later they had a pattern to the model numbers to make it easily discernable from other years....like J115SLCCM as an example



                        bob
                        Bob,

                        The model number is: 16AHCXKWB - I searched google for this, but the only results I got was for a seadrive 1.6L but mine is not a seadrive, well unless it was converted.
                        I cant upload pictures because it uploads them upside down even though they are upside up.

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                        • #13
                          Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                          yeah nothing makes sense....at least to me....so......lets see a picture of the motor...or two!!

                          bob

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                          • #14
                            Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                            Originally posted by bob johnson View Post
                            yeah nothing makes sense....at least to me....so......lets see a picture of the motor...or two!!

                            bob
                            Here are some pictures, I had to send the pics to twitpic because over here in the forum they show up as upside down. Not sure why.

                            Links below:

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                              Re: How to wire the tilt on a 88 Johnson 115 - Fixed pic

                              Is the red wire from the switch hooked to a hot side on your solenoid? on your wires from the motor, the black cable with the big flat lug will be a ground. if the red wire is hot(small wire) then you can hit your switch and one of the purple or green wire should be hot with the switch pushed up.then you could hook it up to each end of the wires from the motor but this is not good practice as the switch is probably not made to withstand this. in reality you should use a two solenoid setup. you got everything there just need another solenoid and a couple short battery cables.

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