1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

[GJCB]

Hello all,

I'm new to forum and had a couple of quick questions for you. I recently picked up an Evinrude Fisherman, 6 h. I'm assuming from the serial # its a 1966 (serial number 6602E). Anyways, I'm pretty new to the boating world and I'm wondering if these are pretty strong motors? I got it really cheap ($100) because it had sat on a shelf in a garage for 15 years. The guy swears it ran when he put it there and it looks great for the year. The hoses aren't even cracked or anything. Anyways, I consider myself fairly mechanically inclined, but I've never worked on a boat motor. Besides cleaning the carb and changing plugs, is there anything else I should do before attempting to start it. What about fuel ratio? I heard 50:1? And there is a know on the front that says something about fuel mixture, with a 1,3 and 5 on it. Any info would help greatly. I have a local mechanic who told me he'd get it going for me for around $100, but I thought I'd attempt it first.

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

If you follow the guidelines in the thread about awakening a sleeping outboard, you should not have much of a problem. My father's 1965 model sat for over 20 years before I started using it, and it still performs like a new motor.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=158086

BTW, Use the best TC-W3 oil with your 50:1 fuel mix; 87 or 89 US octane. The synthetic blend and synthetic TC-W3 oils produce a lot less smoke and carbon.

The gearcase needs high viscosity oil.

Champion J6C at .030 for the spark plugs.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Thanks for the info....the only question I have about that is regarding the plug. You said to use a J6C, but on the handle of the motor is says to use champion J4J. Is there a big difference? I'm not second guessing you, I'm just curious. Is one a hotter plug?

 

[ezeke]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Over time, due mainly to changes in the fuels, many plug recommendations were made. Most of us refer to the Boatsetup chart, which is aligned with the dealers charts, but is in the public forum.

http://www.boatsetup.com/SparkPlugChart.pdf

 

[F_R]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Either the J4 or J6 plug would be acceptable. The J6 is one step hotter and will be better for continual idle/trolling. J4 better for "regular" all around use. The second "J" as in J4J means it is for a two stroke motor. They don't make them that way any more. The "C" means it has a copper electrode. Advertizing hype.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Thanks guys....I'll probably start cleaning it tonight. Are these carbs pretty much like any other small engine?
I have a somewhat stupid question. (remember, i've never messed with a boat motor before). Anyways, do these motors have a fuel pump in them? Or does the fuel just gravity feed? Sorry for the ignorance!

 

[CATransplant]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

I'm certain that has a fuel pump. If the fuel connector on the engine just has one fuel pin and one locating pin, then it has a fuel pump.

If this engine was run dry before storage, you might actually not have to do anything to the carb.

You should, of course, replace the water pump impeller, but I'd consider trying to start the thing up with some fresh premix, and with the lower unit fully immersed in a barrel of water.

If it doesn't pump water, but starts up, shut it right down and replace the impeller, then try again.

You might get a nice surprise and find that it runs just fine without messing with the carb.

But replace the impeller, in any case. Then, look at the carb if it doesn't run properly.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

OK, the process is going well so far. I purchased all the parts atleast (fuel tank, hoses, oil blah, blah, blah) Anyways, another stupid question for you. And yes, I do plan on purchasing a manual, I just need to order it this week. There is a small hole about half way (or alittle higher) up the lower unit that, when I turn the motor upside down, oil seeps out of. Is that normal, or should it be plugged. I first noticed it when I was cleaning the motor, then I put it back on the stand, came back later and there was some oil on the floor. Thanks again for your help.

 

[F_R]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Good question. It is normal for oil to seep out those drain holes after use. But you say yours hasn't been run in many moons. On the other hand, it would have to be leaking very seriously to show up that quickly. What does the gear oil look like, and is it the same color as what you are seeing?

BTW, it is bad practice to turn outboards upside down. That lets water run into the powerhead's exhaust ports....if it isn't completely drained first. Shouldnt be a problem this time.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

i havent started it yet, but I noticed it after I powerwashed the motor and had the prop spinning very fast. (as a result of the powerwasher hitting the prop) could that have had some impact? It's kind of a "thick" oil. The smell reminds me of a hydralic oil smell.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

I'm going to try to post a picture of the hole I'm talking about. I was wrong, it's actually only a foot or so up the shaft (from the bottom).

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Ok, here's my attempt to post some pics. This is exactly how I got the motor. It's pretty clean for sitting on the shelf for 18 plus years. Anyways, the last picture it the small hole I'm talking about. The pic is upside down and you can see how it's drained downward. #3 is a pic of how it puddled up on the floor.

 

[GJCB]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

I've done alittle searching online today. Could it possibly be a "weep hole". I'm not sure what that is, but it was mentioned on a few sites.

 

[JHartikka]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Hi, nice to see another of these 6 hp Fishermans in use! I have one in regular summer use that my father bought as new. It starts every spring with third pull of the rope and has been used in lakes only so it still looks rather good for its age.

I guess it may be one or two year older than yours because it has a little different black cap on fuel pump and it misses a couple of carburetor levers that yours has.

It has been quite reliable until recently when a cork gasket in carburetor disintegrated and its original fuel pump hose developed a block. A couple of years ago I had its water pump impeller replaced just for sure. The original one came out in fine condition. The gearbox gaskets have been replaced after it showed signs of water in gear oil. So not too much maintenance for an outboard motor of over 40 years of age!

Do you have any hints where one could get spare parts to these old Fisherman's Evinrudes today?


Regards,

- Juha -

Finland

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Terve Juha, and welcome to iboats. The iboats boat store sells all of the common parts, but I do not know if they ship to Suomi. There are some places that sell parts in the UK, but check this site for maybe some more info:
http://www.brpscandinavia.com/web/index.php?id=1

 

[JHartikka]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Terve Juha, and welcome to iboats. The iboats boat store sells all of the common parts, but I do not know if they ship to Suomi. There are some places that sell parts in the UK, but check this site for maybe some more info:
http://www.brpscandinavia.com/web/index.php?id=1

Thank you for tips, I look at them! Usually most online stores ship worldwide, once one is fortunate to spot the correct parts..!

- Juha -

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

There are diagrams for the motor at: http://shop2.evinrude.com.
It starts at 1968, but there are no significant differences between the 1966 and 1968 motors.

 

[JHartikka]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

Fine, those diagrams help a lot to find correct spares! I already recognize quite familiar parts there..!

Regards,

- Juha -

 

[lindy46]

Re: 1966 Evinrude Fisherman (6h)

I've done alittle searching online today. Could it possibly be a "weep hole". I'm not sure what that is, but it was mentioned on a few sites.

Yup, that hole should drain water and unburnt oil/gas from the exhaust housing. If the motor sat horizontally for years, it would have not had a chance to drain. Poke a wire in it and make sure it's clear. BTW, in the second pic, that's your fuel pump with the two hoses going to it, to the right of the spark plugs.

 

[JHartikka]

Determining age of my Evinrude Fisherman 6?

Determining age of my Evinrude Fisherman 6?

21.7.2009

Thank you for the part diagrams link, Whaler, they helped a lot to spot correct part numbers! I googled and ebayed the part numbers and found to my happiness that there still is a good selection of parts available for these old Evinrudes. One example: The old carburetor cork float is apparently getting soaked because the motor has got a tendency to spill the carb although needle appears ok. I found an original float OMC 375919 to replace it from a helpful vintage parts dealer on eBay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Rogers-Vintage-Boat-Parts__W0QQ_armrsZ1

I was a little kid when my father bought the motor in the sixties and I can not remember the exact year. Anyway, my Evinrude Fisherman 6 hp type and serial numbers are 6802C 3011691. Below are more photos of it.

Now another question to experts of this thread: Is there somewhere a site to help tell the age of my outboard?


Regards,

- Juha -